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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:54 am 
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It would be nice to have some sort of real time forum that devs could chat in and all devs regularly sign in to. Does anyone regularly log into IRC?

What's the current development status? I'm getting the itch to do some coding soon.

Things I'd like to work on:

Add a few minor features to logging, like the ability to start logging using a button and keypress (Insert like ecuExplorer).

Performance - I know that Jared is working on this for the next overhaul, but I want to look at it again to see if I can figure something out for a stop-gap solution.

I need to take a look at flashing again, but last time I did that I got a headache. :)

What's everyone else working on?


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I'm in #RomRaider on efnet somewhat frequently. But mirc is always minimized so if you are too, I'd probably never notice.

The overhaul is also going very slow. I just haven't had the time to sit down and work on it. I haven't had one of the entire weekend marathon sessions that used to get releases out fast since probably August. I used to get a good deal of the work done in the office but we've been busy there. If I could sit down for just one entire weekend and code I think I could get a good portion of this done.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:51 pm 
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Do you need any help?

Perhaps a test branch with your code in it would be useful to get other eyes on what you're working on?

BTW, anyone have any good suggestions for a free IRC client?


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Really one of the biggest problems right now is I'm just getting frustrated because I'm kind of stuck. I keep getting to the point where the code is getting convoluted and I could get it working, but it's not right. I think I just need to get a design on paper and follow it. Once I get get this little hurdle I think I should be able to get it going in a week or two.

But.. if someone would like to make a branch, I'll tell you, right now I've got some test data that I'm trying to populate a 3d table with, which I can then display in a prototype of the new frames. So if someone wants to have a go at it, that'd be great.

As far as IRC clients, I've always used mIRC.

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I think it's a good idea to create a test branch. If nothing else, it'll help you keep track of your own work.


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Is this efnet channel a constant?

drees: I'm looking into flashing also :( That and ROM editing with open source tools.. for a more legal alternative to torrented IDAs. How goes your progress, interested in joining forces on a Java based flashing util? I've got colbys code and am having to go back to my uni days of c/c++ code. ick. Thoughts? (we need flashing bad)


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Hehe, no channel in efnet is ever a constant... Efnet is a sort free-range old-west dog-eats-dog.

It might not be the best network to use.


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Tgui wrote:
Is this efnet channel a constant?

drees: I'm looking into flashing also :( That and ROM editing with open source tools.. for a more legal alternative to torrented IDAs. How goes your progress, interested in joining forces on a Java based flashing util? I've got colbys code and am having to go back to my uni days of c/c++ code. ick. Thoughts? (we need flashing bad)

Any rom editing isn't done with IDA, just disassembly. We could always ask for donations to get an official copy of IDA for RomRaider. I didn't dl mine from Russia, but it is a real licensed copy that an acquaintance of mine paid for and "lent" me a copy. The graph view in IDA pro is just way too powerful to replace with the open source disassemblers.


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whats that going to cost?>\


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$895 for IDA pro advanced. Can't use standard because it doesn't support the SH or HC16 processors. And I think it can only be used by one person on every computer that they use, or one computer that everyone uses as far as the license is concerned. You could get standard ($470) and create a custom module for the SH-series and HC16 (I think the SDK is free?).


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merchgod wrote:
$895 for IDA pro advanced. Can't use standard because it doesn't support the SH or HC16 processors. And I think it can only be used by one person on every computer that they use, or one computer that everyone uses as far as the license is concerned. You could get standard ($470) and create a custom module for the SH-series and HC16 (I think the SDK is free?).



Has anyone thought of approaching IDA and asking for a copy to help support an open source project? Could be a good advertising move on their part? If we were to contact them, it should be a thought out move as to not have 15 people calling and asking them for free stuff.


Also, I know I bring this up lots, but its because of my own ignorance. Kpit GNU Utils has SH and H16 tool chains. Could KPIT + GDB disassembly cover all the functionality we need?


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Not sure of the capability of the open source stuff but if it doesn't have graphing capability then it is light years behind IDA as far as I'm concerned. That feature alone is so awesome, I don't think I could ever go back. From what I've seen, the open source software in question is not an analysis tool like IDA, but just a disassembler.


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Colby posted an IDA module for the HC16 processors

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Yeah, and I don't think it would be that hard to develop the module for the SH-series processors either. Still, even the standard version is expensive and it could only be used on one computer or by one person. Additional licenses are still expensive.


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merchgod wrote:
Not sure of the capability of the open source stuff but if it doesn't have graphing capability then it is light years behind IDA as far as I'm concerned. That feature alone is so awesome, I don't think I could ever go back. From what I've seen, the open source software in question is not an analysis tool like IDA, but just a disassembler.


You would know more than I. What is this graphing capability?


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