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 Post subject: Map needed - Walbro- 785 cc injectors, up and down pipe
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:12 pm 
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Hey just wondering if anyone has a map i could use for the parts im putting in. i have a walbro fuel pump, Ultimate Racing 785cc injectors, up and down pipe, stock intake, HKS Bov, and a manual boost controller. i may take out the manual boost controller if i cant find a map for this. i just need something close to these mods so i can have a base and ill adjust it later on thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:03 pm 
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MBCs are generally a bad idea, but were nice to have back in the day when there was no way to change the boost and wastegate targets directly in the ECU. If you are using RomRaider, then you now have that capability. If you have one the classic MBCs that operates all the time, then your ECU has no control over boost whatsoever. This is why you can run into problems with part-throttle full boost. Other MBCs only operate at full throttle, so your FBC deals with your part-throttle boost. Regardless, I would ditch it as it is not necessary and cause problems.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:11 pm 
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Ya thats what i was thinking i should just get rid of it cause i dont want to over boost. is it possible to get a map anywhere for the set up needed without the mbc.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:27 pm 
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ev8siv3 has some stage 2 maps available at osecuroms.org. You'll have to rescale for your injectors as these maps are designed for the stock injectors.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:09 am 
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so to tune for my injectors all i would have to do is go into injector flow scaling and change that to 785?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:22 am 
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that sounds about right, although you should also check the actual afrs afterwards. Changing this value will change the amount of fuel the ecu puts in during open loop. Increasing the value will mean that the injectors are open for less time than before, so less fuel is put in, and afr will be leaner.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:49 pm 
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I've seen this table allegedly from Christian@cobb on the injector scaling issue. Pretty sure that punching 785 won't work.
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2002-2005 USDM Subaru WRX 2.0L Fuel Injector Latency Settings
420 cc 6442 2002-2003 WRX 2.79, 1.49, 0.98, 0.68, 0.38
550 cc 5120 OEM/Denso STi Pink Fuel Injectors 2.79, 1.49, 0.98, 0.68, 0.38
650 cc 4160 2002-2003 WRX PE 650cc 3.69, 2.39, 1.88, 1.58, 0.68
660 cc 4100 2002-2003 WRX Helix Power 660cc 5.79, 2.49, 1.98, 1.18, 0.68
740 cc 3656 2002-2003 WRX OEM Modified 2.79, 1.49, 0.98, 0.68, 0.38
785 cc 3775 2002-2003 WRX Advertised 785cc 2.55, 1.74, 1.31, .076, .055
800 cc 3380 2002-2003 WRX OEM Modified 2.79, 1.49, 0.98, 0.68, 0.38
800 cc 3380 2002-2003 WRX PE 800cc 9.75, 2.79, 1.37, 0.98, 0.70
820 cc 3450 2002-2003 WRX Helix Power 820cc 5.79, 2.28, 1.78, 1.12, 0.62
850 cc 3180 2002-2003 WRX OEM Modified 2.79, 1.49, 0.98, 0.68, 0.38

2006 USDM Subaru WRX 2.5L
560 cc 4916 2006 2.5L WRX 4.70, 2.65, 1.73, 1.20, 0.99

2005-2006 USDM Subaru LGT 2.5L
515 cc 5200 2005-2006 LGT 7.74, 2.78, 1.57, 1.05, 0.84
720 cc 3720 Nismo 720 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.68, 2.38, 1.29, 0.92, 0.67
730 cc 3670 JECS A46-Z00 730 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.62, 2.35, 1.27, 0.88, 0.67
816 cc 3282 Modified 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 7.66, 2.69, 1.37, 1.05, 0.75
850 cc 3150 PE 850cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 9.80, 2.70, 1.80, 1.50, 1.30
860 cc 3390 Helix 860cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 6.05, 2.13, 1.28, 0.92, 0.59

2004-2005 USDM Subaru FXT 2.5L
500 cc 5372 2004-2006 STi 7.66, 2.69, 1.37, 1.05, 0.75
720 cc 3730 Nismo 720 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.68, 2.38, 1.29, 0.92, 0.67
730 cc 3625 JECS A46-Z00 730 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.62, 2.35, 1.27, 0.88, 0.67
816 cc 3290 Modified 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 7.66, 2.69, 1.37, 1.05, 0.75
850 cc 3160 PE 850cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 9.80, 2.70, 1.80, 1.50, 1.30
860 cc 3400 Helix 860cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 6.05, 2.13, 1.28, 0.92, 0.59

2006 USDM Subaru FXT 2.5L
560 cc 4916 2006 2.5L FXT 4.70, 2.65, 1.73, 1.20, 0.99

2004-2006 Subaru WRX STi 2.5L
500 cc 5372 2004-2006 STi 7.66, 2.69, 1.37, 1.05, 0.75
720 cc 3730 Nismo 720 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.68, 2.38, 1.29, 0.92, 0.67
730 cc 3625 JECS A46-Z00 730 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 4.62, 2.35, 1.27, 0.88, 0.67
816 cc 3290 Modified 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 7.66, 2.69, 1.37, 1.05, 0.75
850 cc 3160 PE 850cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 9.80, 2.70, 1.80, 1.50, 1.30
860 cc 3400 Helix 860cc 2004+ STi Fuel Injectors 6.05, 2.13, 1.28, 0.92, 0.59




IDC = IPW * rpm / 1200 = %

IDC IPW RPM
61.5069 16.38 4506


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:01 pm 
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now is this in addition to scaling the injectors? i plan to mod my injectors pretty soon because my idc's are stupid high.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:22 am 
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Yes, sorry, you have to put enter these values in the Injector Opening Time Compensation table as well as updating the Injector Flow Scaling table with the new injector size.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:39 am 
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wondering if anyone has made a map for this yet?


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