RomRaider

Thanks for the tool I love it.

Can I load Multiple logs when I use the Engine Load Compensation and IAT Compensation? or only one log?

i think asking this question on here took you more time than just trying it out. there is also Usage tab for each app which you could (and should) read. also, this question has been covered on this thread and release notes on first page have change list, this feature has been added in v1.5.4 where it made sense (which is all tabs except log stats and log view where column names could be different).

thank you. hopefully someone will be able to check the MAF part

You have put more efforts replying to my question than simply replying "read OP"

The MAF tool is working well, besides having to manually copy into the 'Compare' feature

The manual smoothing feature where you can drag the points is awesome. Only problem is it doesn't update the actual values in the table below.

I just downloaded and double checked - all works as it should: the green smoothing curve (which is the only one editable by dragging a curve's point) DOES modify the final MAF scaling table under the plot by changing appropriate engine load value for the MAF voltage point that's being dragged. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. To test I grabbed the first point of the smooting green curve and dragged it up while watching engine load value in the final maf table below to increase. Perhaps you didn't scroll the table to watch the proper cell you're dragging the point for?

I made change to set focus on the cell that's being modified.

Hey vgi, Running your beta from the master branch.

-On the Log Stats tab I'm getting "java.lang.sx: 14" when trying to plot my VE. Seems it only does it when I pick the last column of my .csv as the "value" parameter. Other columns plot fine.
-How do I get back to the 'not' skin from the last release. I tried removing the style flags from the .bat file to no avail.
-Tried with the last release and this beta 2.0 , dragging the MAF points in 'smoothing' still doesn't change the values below. What java version are you testing on?
-I'm playing with the VE Tab; in the data selection, Manifold Pressure is Relative or Absolute? Should be specified and maybe given the ability to put in a static Barometric Pressure. Possibly add the ability to have it use Target AFR interpolated from the POLF table as done with the MAF tab, then you can make Final Fueling Base optional.

I have tried my log, last column, all runs fine with custom axis set and with steps set as well.



I removed from the code explicitly setting any look-n-feel, it's now controlled via Java command line param which is set in the run.bat and run.sh. In the run.bat it is set to Windows which is the same as it was before. So unless you change anything, it should have come up the same as before.



Here's my screen and I know one other guy who has working just fine:





I'm confused by your question about Manifold Pressure. There are 4 available options there:
- Torr/mmHG Abs
- Torr/mmHG Rel Sea Lvl
- Psi Abs
- Psi Rel Sea Lvl
The first 2 are cobb logging, the last 2 are op2 via internal or romraider. 2 are absolute, 2 are relative

The whole VE tab is pretty much just a port of Merp's spreadsheet (viewtopic.php?f=32&t=8080) which someone asked me to do. The new functionality can be added but I'd rather have a solid base first which is working and useful as is.

Let take this to PM as it seems something weird is going on.

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if anyone else has any problems pls pm me.

Awesome tool vgi! Pretty much what I've been looking for log viewing, graphing and replaying. Subscribed to this thread to get updates and add more feedback.

Here is a few suggestions that I have after using it for a few minutes:

General Suggestion
- One log for Log Stats, Log View, Log Play: Load one log and those three would let you choose data based on that log, instead of having to select the same log 3 times.
- Way down the road, ability to open an actual tune and all scales & axis would be automatically imported. Not a must because I love that I can use my non Subaru logs on this too!

Log View
Excellent an very pretty overall!
- I would love the ability to load another log file and graph it side by side. This way I could easily graph items Total timing between two logs and see why one log

Log Play
- If you could add the ability to show trails it would be pretty awesome. This way after you play it the first time, you can see what path it traveled down.
- Replay and show actual values: Basically it would be a table with RPM and Load axis and empty cells. When you play the log, the item of your choose will display and interpolate the actual value. This would let you play back a log and see what your actual AFR was based on the Engine & RPM loads. Here is what I have in mind:


EDIT: Dude you freaking rock, I see that functionality in Log Stats! Thus never mind on the replay suggestion.

Log Play Bugs:
Selecting all cells sans Axis and clearing them causes the play table to lock up, requires you to close it and reopen it.


Thanks again for an awesome tool, more suggestions and bugs to come as I play with it more! .

I think if you could get this integrated into RomRaider it would be freaking amazing, then you wont have to manually create the axis and what not.

- I could load the log which is opened from any of those into all 3. But it would take a bit longer to load and the proggie would use more memory which is not so good for netbook users. I'm just not convinced people who want to use just 1 tab should pay penalty. How about I just share file selection dialog. So if you loaded file on any tab, when you open file selection dialog on any other tab it'll already open in the same directory, thus making reloading the file a matter of 2/3 clicks?
- Nah, that just won't happen. It was done as logs processing tool independent of tunes or tuning programs (which may display different values and have different tables layout). You can save though your axes for stats and POL table. I recon I could add saving other tables for replay as well if it helps.



I'm actually not sure if I understand. Sides by side - you mean different charts or you means same (eg timing) curves from different logs but on the same plot? Are you talking about the 3D Chart? Because on 2D opening multiple files is just not doable - the whole thing is done so that it just can't display multiple logs: the table with headers and with row tracing, the X-Scale is always time (which is obviously will be different on different logs). On 3D you're free to choose your own axes so multiple files would work. All in all sounds like creating a whole new tab (for multiple logs plotting where one could select x/y axis and data column) would be best.




- yeah, i could add the trails, it's gonna be pretty messy though with all those lines going across all those cells
- i could add another optional column selection for the actual data column and display it along with interpolated value as they may not be the same - eg with AFR interpolated form Primary Open Loop it will not match the actual AFR value from log due to trim corrections and maybe min wot enrichment value.




maybe i should just disable all options except "paste"? i didn't expect anyone to mess with those besides "clear all" and "paste"




that would definitely solve the tables issue But some folks (i had to get ecutek) use it with other tuning programs, Cobb, EcuTek, ... Still, if whoever decides what new features go into RR were intersted in some or all functionality it could be added.

The way I see it in my head is, load the log file in one location and the three tabs just pull the data from the same source, which in theory shouldn't hurt performance?



Understandable, and I like it for that reason too! Maybe doing a profile based system would help with this. The profile would contain your RPM and Load scales, etc.



I was talking about the 2D graph indeed. Kind of similar to how Virtual Dyno (http://www.virtualdyno.net/) lets you do multiple logs, just sadly you can't pick and choose what data to graph there.

Having a log comparison tab where you can graph stuff would be sufficient too.



Doesn't have to be, I kind of like how Airboy's spreadsheet does tracing, where it just puts a black square around the cells that the log touched. Or something like this:



I think the way you did Log Stats is actually good, you just cant play the log and see what value you get at the specific frame, which is what Log Play allows you to do.

I do like that Log Stat lets you do averages, min's and maximums etc.



They are kind of nice actually, but not a must. If you do log trails, then having the option to clear trails would be needed.


I wouldn't call them issues, just manual lazy human work . If your stuff is open source I would highly advise RomRaider defs to work with you to get it in. It would make the romraider experience tons better .

Another plus one to you, being able to have more then one play table and being able to switch out the Axis. I'm finally able to have a retrace AFR, Timing, and Target boost tables at the same time!

Now currently it does remember what you originally selected for Axis even if you open a new table with different axis, which is excellent! I wonder if the Axis selection would be better on the popped up window (so that you could change them after the play table has been opened?).

- Another useful item would be to display actual item by Value:. Currently Value shows the map value, but if you could let us choose a column to display the actual value from log would be awesome.
- Play tables are always ontop, even of other applications, can that be changed, with laptop monitors space is precious
- Ability to create play table presets. Where it would automatically create all of your usual tables. Like say if I wanted to always draw the following windows:


Finally crossposted to LegacyGT forums so that they are aware of the awesomeness of this software.

well, it takes time to load log file and it's being loaded into tables for log view and log play which is if you have an 8mb log it counts.
so the file chooser now will open the same folder from where a log has been loaded from in another tab


the line gives a better idea on the interpolated value by it's positioning, so I added a line trace.


yeah, so I added it and made it optional (eg select AFR for Eng Load/Engine Speed Prim Open Loop Fueling table)



actually, i think you have tried to mod the table while you were playing it. So I disabled that if log is being played


anyway, get the updated zip file