DE5F201B 2010 USDM Legacy 3.6R (AT) ECU 5B2B367007

td-d · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:33 pm

Donations are welcome!

The Romraider definition for this Rom is completed.

The EcuFlash def for this Rom is completed.

Now on Github Alpha branch

Romraider def
Ecuflash def

Alpha logger definition available on Github.

td-d · **Posted:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:33 pm

Logger addresses:

Code:

E_AF_Correction_1_2byteExtExt_E82                      FFFF712C 
E_AF_Correction_1_4byteExt_E81                         FFFF7C94 
E_AF_Correction_2_4byteExt_E105                        FFFF7EE8 
E_AF_Learning_1_2byteExtExt_E83                        FFFF7134 
E_AF_Learning_1_4byteExt_E48                           FFFF8110 
E_AF_Learning_1_A_StoredExt_E44                        FFFF32E0 
E_AF_Learning_1_B_StoredExt_E45                        FFFF32E8 
E_AF_Learning_1_C_StoredExt_E46                        FFFF32F0 
E_AF_Learning_1_D_StoredExt_E47                        FFFF32F8 
E_AF_Learning_2_4byteExt_E66                           FFFF8114 
E_AF_Learning_2_A_StoredExt_E62                        FFFF3300 
E_AF_Learning_2_B_StoredExt_E63                        FFFF3308 
E_AF_Learning_2_C_StoredExt_E64                        FFFF3310 
E_AF_Learning_2_D_StoredExt_E65                        FFFF3318 
E_AF_Learning_Airflow_Range_CurrentExt_E61             FFFF811B 
E_AF_Sensor_1_2byteExtExt_E92                          FFFF7118 
E_AF_Sensor_1_4byteExt_E91                             FFFF690C 
E_AF_Sensor_2_4byteExt_E109                            FFFF6924 
E_CLOL_FuelingExt_E33                                  FFFFB2D1 
E_Closed_Loop_Fueling_Target_2byteExt_E122             FFFF7130 
E_Closed_Loop_Fueling_Target_4byteExt_E121             FFFF806C 
E_Engine_Load_1byteExtExt_E86                          FFFF714F 
E_Engine_Load_4ByteExt_E32                             FFFF67D0 
E_Engine_Speed_Delta_E157                              FFFF69E4 
E_Feedback_Knock_Correction_1byteExtExt_E94            FFFF7158 
E_Feedback_Knock_Correction_4byteExt_E39               FFFF8BE0 
E_Final_Fueling_Base_2byteExt_E124                     FFFF7126 
E_Final_Fueling_Base_4byteExt_E123                     FFFF78A4 
E_Fine_Learning_Knock_Correction_1byteExtExt_E95       FFFF715B 
E_Fine_Learning_Knock_Correction_4byteExt_E41          FFFF8C1C 
E_Fine_Learning_Table_OffsetExt_E58                    FFFF8C36 
E_Fuel_Injector_1_Latency_4byteExt_E50                 FFFF7908 
E_Fuel_Injector_1_Pulse_Width_4byteExt_E60             FFFF8708 
E_Gear_CalculatedExt_E59                               FFFF6C16 
E_IAM_1byteExtExt_E96                                  FFFF715A 
E_IAM_4byteExt_E31                                     FFFF33C8 
E_Idle_Speed_Map_SelectionExt_E49                      FFFF9208 
E_Ignition_Base_TimingExt_E53                          FFFF891C 
E_Knock_Correction_Advance_4byteExt_E43                FFFF8BDC 
E_Knock_Correction_Advance_IAM_onlyExt_E40             FFFF8C0C 
E_Manifold_Relative_Pressure_4byteExt_E113             FFFF65DC 
E_Manifold_Relative_Sea_Level_Pressure_2byteExtExt_E89 FFFF7110 
E_Manifold_Relative_Sea_Level_Pressure_4byteExt_E52    FFFF65D8 
E_Primary_Open_Loop_Map_Enrichment_2byteExt_E85        FFFF7140 
E_Primary_Open_Loop_Map_Enrichment_4byteExt_E84        FFFF82A8 
E_Requested_TorqueExt_E56                              FFFF8FC8 
E_Target_Throttle_Plate_PositionExt_E57                FFFF9014 
E_Throttle_Plate_Opening_Angle_4byteExt_E38            FFFF6698 
E_Tipin_Enrichment_Last_CalculatedExt_E55              FFFF84D8 
E_Tipin_ThrottleExt_E54                                FFFF66A8 

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Hi td_d - any chance you can define/add "Fuel Injector #2 Latency (4-byte)*" and "Fuel Injector #2 Pulse Width (4-byte)*"
These would help drive Bank 2 (cyl # 2, 4, 6) fueling for H6 motors.
The more common #1 params (A/F Learning, Correction, A/F Sensor, etc.) are Bank 1 specific (cyl # 1, 3, 5).

Here are the XML snippets for #1 Injector params you already defined and found the address for in the 2010 3.6R ROM from the v290 Logger Definitions:

Quote:

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

td_d - any chance you can revisit this ROM and expand the logger definitions to something similar to what you've build for the 2011 3.6R USDM ROM here:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8276

I'm mostly interested in the additional RAM addresses you defined:

Ram_Oil_Temperature 00000000FFFF4524
Ram_AF_Correction_3_4byteExt_E 00000000FFFF7FF8
Ram_AF_Learning_3 00000000FFFF34F0
Ram_AirFuel_Correction_4 00000000FFFF8054
Ram_AirFuel_Learning_4 00000000FFFF34F8
etc.

And extended params such as:

E_AF_Correction_3_2byteExt_E 00000000FFFF6F7C
E_AF_Correction_4_2byteExt_E 00000000FFFF6F7E
E_Ignition_Total_Timing_1byte_E 00000000FFFF6F99
E_Ignition_Total_Timing_4byte_E 00000000FFFF8718

Globally we're stuggling with proper Bank 2 tuning on many EZ36D motors due to the lack of Bank 2 fuel table definitions, injector #2 pw/dc/latency addresses, etc.

I can contribute to the effort and also provide you with the complete 'April-2015' Subaru of America PAK file database for all current/recent-gen model cars (ECM, TCM, EPB reflashes).

td-d · **Posted:** Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:52 pm

Sure - here's what I've got:

Code:

RAM_Cruise_NoCruise              FFFF6618 
RAM_Switch_I3_S1_SSharp2_0          FFFF6000 
Ram_AF_Correction_3_4byteExt_E      FFFF81A8 
Ram_AF_Learning_3                   FFFF3320 
Ram_AF_Sensor_1_Resistance          FFFF40E0 
Ram_Accelerator_Pedal_Angle         FFFF68A8 
Ram_AirFuel_Correction_4            FFFF8204 
Ram_AirFuel_Learning_4_             FFFF3328 
Ram_Atmospheric_Pressure_1          FFFF7178 
Ram_Battery_Voltage                 FFFF416C 
Ram_CPC_Valve_Duty_Ratio            FFFF7224 
Ram_CoolantTemperature              FFFF6720 
Ram_Coolant_Temperature             FFFF4178 
Ram_Engine_Load_Relative            FFFFB2D3 
Ram_Engine_Speed                    FFFF69D4 
Ram_Exhaust_VVT_Advance_Angle_Left  FFFF9B5C 
Ram_Exhaust_VVT_Advance_Angle_Right FFFF9B58 
Ram_Front_O2_Sensor                 FFFF445C 
Ram_Fuel_Injector_1_Pulse_Width     FFFF86F0 
Ram_Fuel_Injector_2_Pulse_Width     FFFF86F4 
Ram_Fuel_Pump_Duty                  FFFF8D04 
Ram_Ignition_Total_Timing_4byte_E   FFFF88A0 
Ram_Intake_VVT_Advance_Angle_Left   FFFF9978 
Ram_Intake_VVT_Advance_Angle_Right  FFFF9974 
Ram_Mass_Airflow                    FFFF67A4 
Ram_MemoryStartCoolantTemperature   FFFF6724 
Ram_Number_of_Exh_Gas_Recirc_Steps  FFFF3384 
Ram_Oil_Temperature                 FFFF4524 
Ram_TimingCompensationIntakeTemp    FFFF672C 
Ram_Vehicle_Speed_0                 FFFF69AC 
Ram_Ignition_Total_Timing_1byte_E FFFF7155 

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

td-d wrote:

Sure - here's what I've got:

Thanks! That's great.

We're putting ROMRaider Logger Definitions v3.08 to good use over @ LegacyGT.com using BtSSM.
Thanks to both the standard <params> and extended/engineering <ecuparams>, defined by you and the team, the app has really taken off.
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.p ... 09p47.html

Can I ask you to revisit the DE5F201B Calibration ID ROMRaider/ECUFlash definitions and attempt to define more tables, see if you can find more Bank 2 related ones?
Anything fueling related, injector #2, per injector compensations would be great!
Right now the definitions do not have enough detail for tuners to control Bank 2 fueling and dial in it to match how they have Bank 1 setup.

I actually have DE5F200B running on 5B2B364007 but plan to flash to DE5201G which is the FED-spec equivalent of the CAL-spec DE5F201B.
I will donate to the site and I am also sharing all the latest USDM 5th gen Legacy (all model years, all engines) PAK files from Subaru's Reprogramming CD April-2015.

I've pulled out ALL the PAK files for the 2010-2014 2.5i, 3.6R, LGTs and broke them out with descriptions by MY in separate folders.

Moderator: Removed links to commercial software, please read posting rules.

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Can someone with access to the right tool/s or knowledge post a Tactrix v2.0 SD logger config XML for this ECUID/CALID combo please?

I found a few online and one offline generators but none reference recent logger definitions which include this ECUID.

Please help.

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Hi td_d, hope all is well. Sent you an email.

Can you please revisit this definition with latest template for the EZ36D in the 2010-2014 Denso ECU cars?
Any additional tables for Bank 2 fueling control would be great!

I've noticed the following missing from the 2010 definition:
Requested Torque D-F
Min Primary Base Enrichment 1 A
Rev Limit A/B
Gear Determination A/B
Radiator Fan Modes (Veh Speed) and A-D
Fuel and Oil Temp Sensor Scalings

And some bad values in some defined tables:
Manifold Pressure Sensor Limits (CEL)
Fuel Pump Duty Medium Injector Duty Cycle

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Could someone please expand the logger def for this ECUID to include:

A/F Correction #2 (2-byte)**
A/F Learning #2 (2-byte)**
A/F Sensor #2 (2-byte)**
Engine Load (2-byte)** - Version 2
Fuel Injector #1 Pulse Width (2-byte)**
Fuel Injector #2 Pulse Width (2-byte)**
Throttle Plate Opening Angle (2-byte)**

For some reason the logger defs have the vanilla and 4-byte fields for A/F #2 fields, but lack the 2-byte precision ones.
Same is true for Engine Load and Throttle Plate Opening Angle. For Injector PW, only vanilla fields are defined and work well, but if you could find the 2-byte engineering addresses, that would be awesome!

The latest official logger already defines the following, in case it makes finding the #2 equivalents easier:
A/F Correction #1 (2-byte)** offset="#FF712C" storagetype="uint16"
A/F Learning #1 (2-byte)** offset="#FF7134" storagetype="uint16"
A/F Sensor #1 (2-byte)** offset="#FF7118" storagetype="uint16"

"A/F Correction #2 (4-byte)*" offset="#FF7EE8" storagetype="float"
A/F Learning #2 (4-byte)*" offset="#FF8114" storagetype="float"
"A/F Sensor #2 (4-byte)*" offset="#FF6924" storagetype="float"
"Engine Load (4-Byte)*" offset="#FF67D0" storagetype="float"
"Throttle Plate Opening Angle (4-byte)*" offset="#FF6698" storagetype="float"

dschultz · **Posted:** Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:37 pm

These are what I have found. There's no defined E parameter for them currently.

A/F Correction #2 (2-byte) scaling the same as A/F #1 - FF712E
A/F Learning #2 (2-byte) scaling the same as A/F #1 - FF7136
A/F Sensor #2 (2-byte) scaling the same as A/F #1 - FF711A
Engine Load (2-byte) - not available
Fuel Injector #1 Pulse Width (2-byte) units="µs" expr="x*4" - FF7122
Fuel Injector #2 Pulse Width (2-byte) units="µs" expr="x*4" - FF7124
Throttle Plate Opening Angle (2-byte) - not available
Engine Speed Delta (2-byte) units="RPM" expr="x*0.1953125-6400" - FF711E
Requested Torque (1-byte) units="Torque" expr="x"- FF715D

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Dale, you rock. Thank you!
I will test these out.

td-d · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:44 pm

Thanks Dale. Sorry guys, just no time at the moment...

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

No worries at all td_d. I figured that must be the case.
Dale saved the day. I'm able to use a great mix of standard and extended/engineering 1-, 2-byte and very few 4-byte fields now for logging.

Reduced my logging payload by a good 32-48 bytes and increased polling rates into 30-50Hz range, depending on what I'm doing. Exactly what I was shooting for.

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

I've tried the A/F related (2-byte) fields today and although I'm getting data, its completely off.
It seems the conversion/scaling formulas set in the latest logger defs (v3.17) are incorrect

Can you please check the conversion/scaling formulas for these params and let me know?
Looks like both #1 and #2 params are affected.

If I switch to standard params or 4-byte fields - no issues. Correct values come back.
The same is true for all other 2-byte params (including FF Base, CL Target, etc.)
But below 6 params produce strange data.

A/F Correction #2 (2-byte) - FF712E
A/F Correction #1 (2-byte) - FF712C

Code:

<conversions>
<conversion units="%" expr="(x*.01220703)-100" format="0.00" />
</conversions>

A/F Learning #2 (2-byte) - FF7136
A/F Learning #1 (2-byte) - FF7134

Code:

<conversions>
<conversion units="%" expr="(x*.04882812)-50" format="0.00" />
</conversions>

A/F Sensor #2 (2-byte) - FF711A
A/F Sensor #1 (2-byte) - FF7118

Code:

<conversions>
<conversion units="estimated AFR" expr="(x*.0001220703)*14.7" format="0.00" />
</conversions>

Perscitus · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm **Posts:** 76

Disregard above. All is well.

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