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 Post subject: Cruise/Non_Cruise Map Switching Tables, Parameters and Logic
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:19 pm 
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I've found a whole set of tables and parameters related to the cruise / non cruise switch over point. I'll do my best to explain how to find them - this is for the EDM Sti 2008, AZ1G202G. I managed to trace them by tracing back the cruise_nonCruise switch in my rom.

Start by finding the Ram map ratio accel / cruise parameter. I followed the Knock Correction Advance Cruise and Non Cruise maps. In the code,you will see a parameter after engine load (and before the maps):

Code:
ROM:0003DCC0 Fun_KnockCorrectionAdvanceMax:          ; CODE XREF: sub_42418+DAp
ROM:0003DCC0                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_42418+D8o ...
ROM:0003DCC0                 mov.l   r14, @-r15      ; Move Long Data
ROM:0003DCC2                 sts.l   pr, @-r15       ; Store System Register Long
ROM:0003DCC4                 fmov.s  fr12, @-r15     ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCC6                 fmov.s  fr13, @-r15     ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCC8                 fmov.s  fr14, @-r15     ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCCA                 fmov.s  fr15, @-r15     ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCCC                 add     #-4, r15        ; Add binary
ROM:0003DCCE                 mov.l   #RAM_EngineSpeed_0, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:0003DCD0                 fmov.s  @r2, fr15       ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCD2                 mov.l   #E_Engine_Load_4ByteExt_E32, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:0003DCD4                 fmov.s  @r2, fr14       ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCD6                 mov.l   #E_Map_Ratio_Cruise_NonCruise, r2 ; [value]*.3515625
ROM:0003DCD8                 fmov.s  @r2, fr13       ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:0003DCDA                 mov.l   #Map3_KnockCorrectionAdvanceMaxCruise, r4 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:0003DCDC                 mov.l   #Fun_GetMapValue3D, r14 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:0003DCDE                 fmov    fr15, fr5       ; Floating-point move
ROM:0003DCE0                 jsr     @r14 ; Fun_GetMapValue3D ; Jump to Subroutine
ROM:0003DCE2                 fmov    fr14, fr4       ; Floating-point move



If you follow the Xrefs from the Map_Ratio parameters, you will see a set of 3 adjacent code locations:

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Follow the first of the 3, and that takes you to the routine that determines the actual ratio to be used.

The second reference takes you some code that either adds or subtracts a value to the Map Ratio parameter, depending on whether a switch is set to cruise or non-cruise mode, and then limits the value to between 0 and 1. This value is then loaded back into the Map Ratio parameter.

Code:
ROM:00055EA6 loc_55EA6:                              ; CODE XREF:

Func_Determine_Cruise_Accel_Map_Ratio:loc_55EA0j
ROM:00055EA6                 mov.b   r0, @(h'16,gbr) ; FFFF8A5E
ROM:00055EA8                 mov.b   @(h'16,gbr), r0 ; FFFF8A5E
ROM:00055EAA                 tst     r0, r0          ; Test Logical
ROM:00055EAC                 mov.l   #E_Map_Ratio_Cruise_NonCruise, r6 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055EAE                 bf/s    loc_55EBA       ; Branch of False with Delay Slot
ROM:00055EB0                 fmov.s  @r6, fr4        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055EB0
ROM:00055EB2                 mov.l   #Map_Switch_Adder_Non_cruise, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055EB4                 fmov.s  @r2, fr9        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055EB6                 bra     loc_55EC0       ; This section keeps the value between 0 and 1
ROM:00055EB8                 fadd    fr9, fr4        ; Floating-point add
ROM:00055EB8
ROM:00055EBA ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ROM:00055EBA
ROM:00055EBA loc_55EBA:                              ; CODE XREF: Func_Determine_Cruise_Accel_Map_Ratio+76j
ROM:00055EBA                 mov.l   #Map_Switch_Adder_Cruise, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055EBC                 fmov.s  @r2, fr8        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055EBE                 fsub    fr8, fr4        ; Floating-point subtract
ROM:00055EBE
ROM:00055EC0
ROM:00055EC0 loc_55EC0:                              ; CODE XREF: Func_Determine_Cruise_Accel_Map_Ratio+7Ej
ROM:00055EC0                 mov.l   #Fun_check_high_low_thresholds, r2 ; This section keeps the value between 0 and 1
ROM:00055EC2                 fldi1   fr6             ; Floating-point load immediate 1.0
ROM:00055EC4                 jsr     @r2 ; Fun_check_high_low_thresholds ; Jump to Subroutine
ROM:00055EC6                 fldi0   fr5             ; Floating-point load immediate 0.0
ROM:00055EC6
ROM:00055EC8                 mov.l   #E_Map_Ratio_Cruise_NonCruise, r6 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055ECA                 fmov.s  fr0, @r6        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055ECC                 add     #h'10, r15      ; Add binary
ROM:00055ECE                 ldc.l   @r15+, gbr      ; Load to Control Register Long
ROM:00055ED0                 lds.l   @r15+, pr       ; Load to System Register Long
ROM:00055ED2                 rts                     ; Return from Subroutine
ROM:00055ED4                 nop                     ; No Operation


The switch at ROM:00055EA6 is cruise or non_cruise (0 or 1). You will need to resolve the indirect addressing by checking the address that is loaded into gbr at the beginning of the code. As a detour, you can verify this is the cruise_non cruise switch in another section of the rom. I scoured around tables that reference cruise and non cruise logic. Go to the Closed Loop Fueling Compensation Immediate Cruise (ECT) table location:

Code:
ROM:0008924C Map3_CLFuelingTargetCompensationImmNonCruiseECT:.data.w h'10
ROM:0008924C                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+16o
ROM:0008924C                                         ; ROM:off_2E114o
ROM:0008924C                                         ; 16 Colones
ROM:0008924C                                         ;
ROM:0008924C                                         ; 3 Lignes
ROM:0008924E                 .data.w 3
ROM:00089250                 .data.l Table_CoolantTemperature_YAxis
ROM:00089254                 .data.l CLFuelingTargetCompensationImmNonCruiseECT_Load_YAxis
ROM:00089258                 .data.l CLFuelingTargetCompensationImmNonCruiseECT
ROM:0008925C                 .data.l h'8000000       ; 16 Byts
ROM:00089260                 .float 0.000015258789
ROM:00089264                 .float -0.5


Follow the Xref back from the tables to the data list:

Code:
ROM:0002E104 off_2E104:      .data.l Ram_MemoryStartCoolantTemperature
ROM:0002E104                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+4r
ROM:0002E108 off_2E108:      .data.l Ram_CoolantTemperature ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+8r
ROM:0002E10C off_2E10C:      .data.l E_Engine_Load_4ByteExt_E32 ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+Cr
ROM:0002E110 off_2E110:      .data.l RAM_Cruise_NoCruise ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+10r
ROM:0002E114 off_2E114:      .data.l Map3_CLFuelingTargetCompensationImmNonCruiseECT
ROM:0002E114                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+16r
ROM:0002E118 off_2E118:      .data.l Map3_CLFuelingTargetCompensationImmCruiseECT
ROM:0002E118                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+1Ar
ROM:0002E11C off_2E11C:      .data.l Fun_GetMapValue3D ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC:loc_2DEF8r
ROM:0002E120 off_2E120:      .data.l Ram_FFFF7304    ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+22r
ROM:0002E124 off_2E124:      .data.l Variable_flt_C7A20 ; DATA XREF: sub_2DEDC+28r
ROM:0002E128 off_2E128:      .data.l Ram_FFFF7058    ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940+5E8r
ROM:0002E128                                         ; sub_2DF9A+18r
ROM:0002E12C off_2E12C:      .data.l Ram_FFFF7380    ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940:loc_2DF2Cr
ROM:0002E130 off_2E130:      .data.l Variable_flt_C7A24 ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940+608r
ROM:0002E130                                         ; sub_2DF9A+C6r
ROM:0002E134 off_2E134:      .data.l Fun_check_high_low_thresholds
ROM:0002E134                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940+616r
ROM:0002E134                                         ; sub_2D940+644r
ROM:0002E138 af3learningmax?:.float 0.5              ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940+618o
ROM:0002E138                                         ; sub_2D940+646o
ROM:0002E13C af3learningmin?:.float -0.5             ; DATA XREF: sub_2D940+61Co
ROM:0002E13C                                         ; sub_2D940+64Ao


In AZ1G202G, the Ram variable being referenced above the cruise / non cruise tables was the switch. If you follow that back to the code, you will see that it is compared for status 0 or 1, and accordingly cruise or non cruise maps are chosen.

Ok - back to the map switching logic. Now to find the other related tables and parameters, take the X-ref from the Map Ratio routine to the routine that calls it. If you look at it in graph view, it's a whole collection of NOPs leading to a BSR to a routine. Following these BSRs to the routines, and one of them you will see a RAM parameter being checked for a value of 1, 2 or 3 (this paramater is the DCCD I, S, S# switch):

Code:
ROM:00055BC4 sub_55BC4:                              ; CODE XREF: sub_55260+7Ep
ROM:00055BC4                 mov.l   r13, @-r15      ; Move Long Data
ROM:00055BC6                 mov.l   r14, @-r15      ; Move Long Data
ROM:00055BC8                 sts.l   pr, @-r15       ; Store System Register Long
ROM:00055BCA                 fmov.s  fr14, @-r15     ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055BCC                 stc.l   gbr, @-r15      ; Store Control Register Long
ROM:00055BCE                 mov.l   #Ram_FFFF8A52, r0 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BD0                 ldc     r0, gbr         ; Load to Control Register
ROM:00055BD2                 add     #-h'1C, r15     ; Add binary
ROM:00055BD4                 mov.l   #Ram_FFFF8030, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BD6                 fmov.s  @r2, fr14       ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055BD8                 mov.l   #RAM_Switch_I3_S1_SSharp2_0, r6 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BDA                 mov.b   @r6, r14        ; Move Byte Data
ROM:00055BDC                 mov.l   #Ram_FFFF6120, r6 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BDE                 mov.l   #sub_22A36, r2  ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BE0                 jsr     @r2 ; sub_22A36 ; Jump to Subroutine
ROM:00055BE2                 mov.b   @r6, r13        ; Move Byte Data
ROM:00055BE2
ROM:00055BE4                 mov.b   r0, @r15        ; Move Byte Data
ROM:00055BE6                 extu.b  r14, r0         ; Extend as Unsigned (Byte)
ROM:00055BE8                 cmp/eq  #1, r0          ; Sport Sharp Mode
ROM:00055BEA                 bt      loc_55C10       ; Branch if True
ROM:00055BEA
ROM:00055BEC                 cmp/eq  #2, r0          ; Sport Mode
ROM:00055BEE                 bf      loc_55C08       ; I Mode
ROM:00055BEE
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ROM:00055C06
ROM:00055C08 ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ROM:00055C08
ROM:00055C08 loc_55C08:                              ; CODE XREF: sub_55BC4+2Aj
ROM:00055C08                 cmp/eq  #3, r0          ; I Mode
ROM:00055C0A                 bt      loc_55C28       ; Branch if True
ROM:00055C0A
ROM:00055C0C                 tst     r13, r13        ; Test Logical
ROM:00055C0E                 bf      loc_55C28       ; Branch if False

ROM:00055C0E

There's a set of 6 2d tables (Cruise and Non Cruise for each of the 3 modes) here that are the Cruise / Non Cruise minimum and maximum thresholds for requested torque vs. RPM that determine (amongst a number of other tables and parameters) whether you switch to cruise or non-cruise mode.

Code:
ROM:00055BF0                 mov.l   #Table_MAP_Switch_NonCruise_REq_Torque_Thresh_Max_B, r4 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BF2                 mov.l   #Fun_GetMapValue2D_8B_16B_Float, r14 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BF4                 mov.l   #Ram_FFFF8AC0, r13 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055BF6                 mov     #h'FFFFFFC8, r0 ; FFFF8A88
ROM:00055BF8                 jsr     @r14 ; Fun_GetMapValue2D_8B_16B_Float ; Jump to Subroutine
ROM:00055BFA                 fmov.s  @(r0,r13), fr4  ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055BFA
ROM:00055BFC                 mov     #h'FFFFFFD4, r0 ; Move Immediate Byte Data
ROM:00055BFE                 fmov.s  fr0, @(r0,r13)  ; FFFF8A94
ROM:00055C00                 mov.l   #Table_MAP_Switch_Cruise_Switch_REq_Torque_Thresh_Min_B, r4 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055C02                 mov     #h'FFFFFFC8, r0 ; FFFF8A88
ROM:00055C04                 bra     loc_55C3E       ; Branch
ROM:00055C06                 fmov.s  @(r0,r13), fr4  ; Floating-point move single precision


Further down the code, you will find two float values being compared to a Ram parameter (which logged is airflow gs) - this is the map switching thresholds based on MAG gs values (enable non-cruise above and cruise below) - in my rom the values are 45 and 50.

Code:
ROM:00055C60 loc_55C60:                              ; CODE XREF: sub_55BC4+8Cj
ROM:00055C60                                         ; sub_55BC4+96j
ROM:00055C60                 mov.l   #MAP_Switch_Cruise_NonCruise_Airflow_enable_below, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055C62                 fmov.s  @r2, fr9        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055C64                 mov     #h'FFFFFFD0, r0 ; Move Immediate Byte Data
ROM:00055C66                 fmov.s  @(r0,r13), fr8  ; FFFF8A90
ROM:00055C68                 fcmp/gt fr8, fr9        ; Floating-point compare greater than
ROM:00055C6A                 bf      loc_55C72       ; Branch if False
ROM:00055C6A
ROM:00055C6C                 mov     #1, r0          ; Move Immediate Byte Data
ROM:00055C6E                 bra     loc_55C82       ; Branch
ROM:00055C70                 mov.b   r0, @(h'65,gbr) ; FFFF8AB7
ROM:00055C70
ROM:00055C72 ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ROM:00055C72
ROM:00055C72 loc_55C72:                              ; CODE XREF: sub_55BC4+A6j
ROM:00055C72                 mov     #h'FFFFFFD0, r0 ; Move Immediate Byte Data
ROM:00055C74                 fmov.s  @(r0,r13), fr9  ; FFFF8A90
ROM:00055C76                 mov.l   #MAP_Switch_Cruise_NonCruise_Airflow_disable_above, r2 ; Move Immediate Long Data
ROM:00055C78                 fmov.s  @r2, fr8        ; Floating-point move single precision
ROM:00055C7A                 fcmp/gt fr9, fr8        ; Floating-point compare greater than
ROM:00055C7C                 bt      loc_55C82       ; Branch if True
ROM:00055C7C
ROM:00055C7E                 mov     #0, r0          ; Move Immediate Byte Data
ROM:00055C80                 mov.b   r0, @(h'65,gbr) ; FFFF8AB7


Further on there is a 2D table (11 cells) that is the intake temperature threshold versus RPM:

Code:
ROM:0008ADEC Table_Map_Switching_NonCruise_Switch_Min_Intake_Temp:.data.w h'B
ROM:0008ADEC                                         ; DATA XREF: sub_55BC4:loc_55C82o
ROM:0008ADEC                                         ; sub_55BC4:off_55D1Co
ROM:0008ADEC                                         ; 11 Lignes
ROM:0008ADEC                                         ; 16 Bits
ROM:0008ADEE                 .data.w h'800
ROM:0008ADF0                 .data.l Table_D5480_YAxis
ROM:0008ADF4                 .data.l Table_D5480
ROM:0008ADF8                 .float 0.00390625
ROM:0008ADFC                 .float -256.0


Further down, a value of -40 is checked against a parameter - this is the coolant temperature threshold for switching (it also sits alongside the adders identfied earlier on).

If you go back to the NOP / BSR collection, another routine (to the left of this one above graphically) has some hex values (177 and FA that translate into 375 and 250) that I suspect are timers / delays for the switches to kick in, but I have not logged these locations.

Phew... ok. Now to post up the tables and scaling.

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 Post subject: Re: Cruise/Non_Cruise Map Switching Tables, Parameters and L
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:23 pm 
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Here are the Ecuflash Definitions for AZ1G202G:

EDIT: fixed some duplicate addresses on the torque threshold tables.

Code:
   <scaling name="Map_Switch_Adder" units="units" toexpr="x" frexpr="x" format="%.4f" min="0" max="255" inc="1" storagetype="float" endian="big"/>
   <scaling name="Map_Switching_Cruise_Switch_Delay?" units="units" toexpr="x" frexpr="x" format="%.0f" min="0" max="255" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
   <scaling name="Requested Torque (Map Switch)" units="units" toexpr="x*0.0062499996" frexpr="x/0.0062499996" format="%.0f" min="0" max="255" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
   <scaling name="negative" units="units" toexpr="-x" frexpr="-x" format="%.4f" min="0" max="255" inc="1" storagetype="float" endian="big"/>
   <scaling name="Intake Air Temp (Map Switch)" units="units" toexpr="x*0.00390625-256" frexpr="(x+256)/0.00390625" format="%.0f" min="0" max="255" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
      
   <table name="MAP_Switch_NonCruise_Req_Torque_Min_S" category="Map Switching" address="d5374" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d5334" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_NonCruise_Req_Torque_Min_S#" category="Map Switching" address="d52b4" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d5274" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_NonCruise_Req_Torque_Min_I" category="Map Switching" address="d5434" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d53f4" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_Cruise_Switch_Req_Torque_Max_S" category="Map Switching" address="d5314" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d52d4" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_Cruise_Switch_Req_Torque_Max_S#" category="Map Switching" address="d5254" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d5214" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_Cruise_Switch_Req_Torque_Max_I" category="Map Switching" address="d53d4" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Requested Torque (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Engine Speed" address="d5394" type="Y Axis" elements="16" scaling="RPM"/>
   </table>

   <table name="Map_Switching_NonCruiseSwitch_Min_Intake_Temp" category="Map Switching" address="d5480" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Intake Air Temp (Map Switch)">
      <table name="Intake Air Temp" address="d5454" type="X Axis" elements="11" scaling="rawecuvalue"/>
   </table>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_Cruise_NonCruise_Airflow_enable_below" category="Map Switching" address="d519c" type="1D" level="1" scaling="rawecuvalue"/>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_Cruise_NonCruise_Airflow_disable_above" category="Map Switching" address="d51a0" type="1D" level="1" scaling="rawecuvalue"/>

   <table name="MAP_Switch_NonCruiseSwitch_Min_Coolant_Temp" category="Map Switching" address="d5198" type="1D" level="1" scaling="rawecuvalue"/>

   <table name="Map_Switch_Adder_NonCruise" category="Map Switching" address="d51a8" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Map_Switch_Adder"/>

   <table name="Map_Switch_Adder_Cruise" category="Map Switching" address="d51ac" type="1D" level="1" scaling="negative"/>

   <table name="Map_Switching_Cruise_Switch_Min_Delay?" category="Map Switching" address="d5140" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Map_Switching_Cruise_Switch_Delay?"/>

   <table name="Map_Switching_Cruise_Thresholds_Min_Delay?" category="Map Switching" address="d5142" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Map_Switching_Cruise_Switch_Delay?"/>

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Oren, you amaze me with your skills at picking a rom apart. I wish I had a third of those skills.


I 2nd that... :shock:
Bloody hell Oren! 8)


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Flattery willl get you everywhere :lol:

Thanks for the compliment - now if only I actually had my car to play around with :x (Phoenix knows the story, local tuner).

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Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...

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Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...

I don't know if you have ever tuned with cobb software or not but, most of the tables cobb has had defined after Bill went to work for them. The question is, how long before cobb hires one or all of the guys behind opensource. Nothing better to destroy your enemy than to take away his guns.


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Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...

I've got to give credit where it's due - these tables and parameters are available in COBB's implementation, and I have no doubt Bill's work.

But there's definitely plenty stuff that's available on OS now that's not on the closed platforms (on the definition side I can think of the tau tables, the AVLS tables, AF smoothing, expanded cruise control logic, ignition dwell). Combined with Merp's development work (and having seen some of the 'alpha' alpha stuff that's coming up, nice features) and Jason's Carberry - I think it's a pretty compelling offer, especially for work that's mostly done on a voluntary basis :lol:

I think once we have flex fuel scaling functionality, live tuning and the ability to expand maps to greater resolution by the end user (which frankly, is already fairly straight forward if you're willing to move maps around in the spare space in the roms, but I mean with a user interface) OS will be close to standalone functionality - which for the 'price point' is hard to beat.

In any case, I'm not going anywhere soon - a) I'm half way across the world; b) it'll take a pretty compelling offer to move out of financial services ;). I just love doing this stuff.

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Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...


Are you serious or was this just an aimless jab? Still want to place that bet?

These tables were defined a long time ago by COBB.

Try to educate yourself before speaking.


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mrf582 wrote:
Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...


Are you serious or was this just an aimless jab? Still want to place that bet?

These tables were defined a long time ago by COBB.

Try to educate yourself before speaking.


Lol I think I corrected him with one of my post above. But I understand, gotta stick up for your employer ;)


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Lance Lucas wrote:
mrf582 wrote:
Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...


Are you serious or was this just an aimless jab? Still want to place that bet?

These tables were defined a long time ago by COBB.

Try to educate yourself before speaking.

Yep, you're right. It was just an aimless jab.

But the jist of my post still stands... ;)

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mrf582 wrote:
Let's take bets on how long it takes Cobb to 'borrow' Oren's work and implement it in their own stuff...

I've got to give credit where it's due - these tables and parameters are available in COBB's implementation, and I have no doubt Bill's work.


Yep :-) Btw, any tips on how to use this and improve on stock values? Ive changed the requested torque values to correspond to my own dbw. Not much written about these elsewhere.


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Yep :-) Btw, any tips on how to use this and improve on stock values? Ive changed the requested torque values to correspond to my own dbw. Not much written about these elsewhere.


What do you want to accomplish? They are fairly straight forward and logging the Cruise/Accel switch (not sure what it's full name would be in RR defs) can definitively show you the crossover points. FWIW, try logging the TGV position as well...

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Tgv is deleted already, but how is it related to map switching?

Im trying to see if I can have it switch earlier and not use so much fuel doing so. Ive got to a point that its pretty much on and off boost with my e85 map but it wasnt "passenger friendly" haha So Im back with stock values again. :-) Cant beat stock on this but curious to find out if it can. The ramping I left going to cruise as stock but to non cruise less so it gets there faster.


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