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 Post subject: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:12 pm 
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Is the pwg and mdk adaption viewable / editable through the full and/or partial bin? Whenever I reset adaptions using inpa or rr logger the throttle adaptions for pwg and mdk do not zero out when confirming with inpa.


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:26 pm 
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So I read my partial bin and then reset throttle adaptions and lambda adaptions using rr logger and then I read my partial again. Using HxD hex editor to compare the two bins confirmed that atleast the lambda learned adaptions are not in the partial (both bins were the exact same).

I am not able to say the same about the pwg or mdk learned adaptions as I cannot even confirm that throttle adaptions are cleared when I reset adaptions with RR logger or INPA.


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:30 pm 
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what is the initial reason you're engaging with those adaptations? what result do you want to get?


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:43 pm 
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georg wrote:
what is the initial reason you're engaging with those adaptations? what result do you want to get?


Im wanting to be able to reset these adaptions. When I use rr logger or inpa to reset adaptions for throttle the adaption values read by inpa do not zero out. When I reset lambda adaptions with inpa or rr logger, the adaption values goto zero.

So basically when I reset throttle adaptions with rr logger, I notice absolutely zero difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:17 pm 
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I believe that if these adaptations go to zero the engine won't work at all.They have nothing in common with the fuel adaptations.When you delete the throttle adaptations you don't zero them out but reset or regenerate them.If you use DIS to delete adaptations after you do it the diagnosis states:switch of ignition for 10 second so new adaptations are stored in ECU.They must be reset if the throttle was faulty and the ECU stored faulty adaptations that lead to poor engine performance,so you wont see any difference unles your throttle was broken and you changed it with a good one :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:23 pm 
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BMWACSCHNITZER wrote:
I believe that if these adaptations go to zero the engine won't work at all.They have nothing in common with the fuel adaptations.When you delete the throttle adaptations you don't zero them out but reset or regenerate them.If you use DIS to delete adaptations after you do it the diagnosis states:switch of ignition for 10 second so new adaptations are stored in ECU.They must be reset if the throttle was faulty and the ECU stored faulty adaptations that lead to poor engine performance :-)


Thank you for the response!

I knew they didnt have anything to do with fuel adaptions but I assumed the pwg 1&2 and mdk 1&2 adaptions would go to zero like the lambda ones.
Regenerate them, sounds dead on, thank you for clearing that up for me :-)

Now my curiosity is still wanting to know if these adaptions are viewable in the binary file full/partial... I always have to be messing with stuff, it drives me nuts some times. Lol


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:10 am 
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323toslow wrote:
BMWACSCHNITZER wrote:
I believe that if these adaptations go to zero the engine won't work at all.They have nothing in common with the fuel adaptations.When you delete the throttle adaptations you don't zero them out but reset or regenerate them.If you use DIS to delete adaptations after you do it the diagnosis states:switch of ignition for 10 second so new adaptations are stored in ECU.They must be reset if the throttle was faulty and the ECU stored faulty adaptations that lead to poor engine performance :-)


Thank you for the response!

I knew they didnt have anything to do with fuel adaptions but I assumed the pwg 1&2 and mdk 1&2 adaptions would go to zero like the lambda ones.
Regenerate them, sounds dead on, thank you for clearing that up for me :-)

Now my curiosity is still wanting to know if these adaptions are viewable in the binary file full/partial... I always have to be messing with stuff, it drives me nuts some times. Lol


Yes it is, they are used in the ram section of the code and will be transfered to the NVRAM, probably in the power latch phase.

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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:18 am 
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Cloudforce wrote:
Yes it is, they are used in the ram section of the code and will be transfered to the NVRAM, probably in the power latch phase.


Forgive me for my ignorance, but at what addresses do the ram and nonvolatile ram start?


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 Post subject: Re: Adaptions : Pedal Position & ThrottleBody
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:25 am 
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Not shure on MS42 as i´m used to work on MS43. A proper damos file will tell you ;-)

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