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DeXTeR323i
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:26 am |
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Hi! I am planning to purchase a cheaper AFR controller kit, what only has a linear output of 0-5V. I have read in several places, that I could connect it into the ports of a Downstream lambda probe on the ECU connector, and I can log the 0-5V values with RR Logger. Before purchase, I tried to test if I can log anything from downstream lambda pins: I have a bench setup, I inserted wires into ECU connector pins 71,72 (downstream O2 sensor signal ground) and pins 77,78 (downstream O2 sensor signal), and I put adjustable 0-5V voltage between the two connected together grounds and one of the signal pin. Here comes the problem, I had no success in logging. In this thread: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=13055tjabo successfully logged the values of STATUS_VLS_DOWN_1_BAS*, but if I check that parameter, my readings in rr logger freezes, the status in the top right starts to alternate between "Reading data" and "Connecting", and in the bottom left corner it writes "Error: Invalid ecu id. Expected 12. Actual: 00." with red, in every five seconds or so. tjabo had an ID60 ECU, mine is MS41.0 ID41 1429861 Can I anyhow log the downstream lambdas, if I put 0-5V onto the ECU pins, with my MS41.0 ID41 1429861? What sould I modify?
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dschultz
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:05 am |
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DeXTeR323i
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:01 pm |
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dschultz wrote: http://www.romraider.com/RomRaider/HowToDebug Clear the log, start RR Logger and select only the parameter that gives you a problem and then post the log here. Hi dschultz! I attach my rr_system.log In the file at: - 10160 I checked parameter [E101] STATUS_LS_VKAT_SIGNAL_1* - It works as it should, I just provided a good working example also - 15127 Unchecked [E101] STATUS_LS_VKAT_SIGNAL_1* - 17859 Checked [E125] STATUS_VLS_DOWN_1_BAS* <- THIS causes my problem, this freezes my logger - 28540 Unchecked [E125] STATUS_VLS_DOWN_1_BAS* - After few second, RR Logger starts to work again. I hope it helps!
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pazi88
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:31 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 18, 2015 8:14 am Posts: 1042 Location: Oulu, Finland (English/Finnish)
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DeXTeR323i wrote: Can I anyhow log the downstream lambdas, if I put 0-5V onto the ECU pins, with my MS41.0 ID41 1429861? What sould I modify?
-861 doesn't have downstream lambdasensors, neither required circuitry to read 0-5v voltages at the inputs. That's why you are getting the error when trying to log those.
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dschultz
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:08 pm |
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pazi88 wrote: DeXTeR323i wrote: Can I anyhow log the downstream lambdas, if I put 0-5V onto the ECU pins, with my MS41.0 ID41 1429861? What sould I modify?
-861 doesn't have downstream lambdasensors, neither required circuitry to read 0-5v voltages at the inputs. That's why you are getting the error when trying to log those. I thought that might be the case. I'll remove those for this ID in a future Logger def update.
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pazi88
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:06 am |
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dschultz wrote: I thought that might be the case. I'll remove those for this ID in a future Logger def update. Those shouldn't be there in first place. The -861 was fixed for some logger definition version without those after I posted the fixes to this thread, but are those added later there? Also -401 and -373 don't have the downstream lambda sensors bit I don't remember if those are even in the official logger definition. EDIT! No wait. It was the downstream lambda heaters. E125-STATUS_VLS_DOWN_1_BAS and E126-STATUS_VLS_DOWN_2_BAS need to have 1429373,1429861 and 1432401 removed from the ecu id-line.¨ I haven't had need to use those item's so I haven't noticed the problem before.
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DeXTeR323i
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:23 am |
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pazi88 and dschultz, thank you for your help!
So my ECU is not capable to read the downstream lambdas, even if it has the pins, but these pins are not connected to anything in the ECU. It means upgrading to MS41.2 would not help either. So, for me, the only way to log 0-5V AFR values is to use a separate device what converts the voltage values into serial port messages.
Thank you again!
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pazi88
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:10 am |
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DeXTeR323i wrote: pazi88 and dschultz, thank you for your help!
So my ECU is not capable to read the downstream lambdas, even if it has the pins, but these pins are not connected to anything in the ECU. It means upgrading to MS41.2 would not help either. So, for me, the only way to log 0-5V AFR values is to use a separate device what converts the voltage values into serial port messages.
Thank you again! Yes that is right. Or you could get ms41.1/2 from ebay to replace your ms41.0.
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dschultz
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:40 pm |
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DeXTeR323i wrote: pazi88 and dschultz, thank you for your help!
So my ECU is not capable to read the downstream lambdas, even if it has the pins, but these pins are not connected to anything in the ECU. It means upgrading to MS41.2 would not help either. So, for me, the only way to log 0-5V AFR values is to use a separate device what converts the voltage values into serial port messages.
Thank you again! To log generic sensors you can use a Phidget: viewtopic.php?t=8534
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jakeb
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:26 am |
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Deleted post...figured out my issue
Last edited by jakeb on Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
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busterhax
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:05 am |
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jakeb wrote: Trying to connect and log MS41.2 . I have a DCAN cable with the OBD2 to round connector adapter.
Most recent defs are installed, I load .44 profile when the logger launches
Com port comes up in logger but with key on it will never connect to the car. I can flash with the same cable setup. Says "unable to send ecu init, make sure cable is plugged in and ignition is on"
Any suggestions on how to make this work? Could you possibly have the flasher open at the same time? Did you select DS2 protocol?
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kondzio310
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:27 am |
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Guys, I have problem with Logger working on ms41.0 (1429861 and 1429373) I can't read and erase DTCs in RR Logger. It comes up with error like below.  Also Reset Engine Control Module - Adaptations doesn't work at all. After procedure (looks quite correct, without errors) values are still the same like before. Except that, live data on tables are working well. I have logger def file v346. What can be reason?
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pazi88
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:46 pm |
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DTC clearing doesn't work in RR logger for BMW ecu's. But you can use new quickflash for it. The adaptation clesring should work with RRlogger.
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kondzio310
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:34 pm |
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pazi88 wrote: DTC clearing doesn't work in RR logger for BMW ecu's. But you can use new quickflash for it. The adaptation clesring should work with RRlogger. Have you any idea why I can't clear adaptation? Read/Write flash memory is working without any problems, reading data on adaptation tables also, therefore I think my cable branch is ok.
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dx4picco
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Post subject: Re: DS2 - datalogging MS41/43 by serial protocol Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:46 pm |
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not all software version of ECU are clearable. My stock ms41.1 isn't. Now that I put ms41.2 from the stock rom thread then its recognized properly and you can clear them. Their definition file ecu can not cover all ecus on the market, as some are slightly different. IF you put a known rom on it, it should clear, at least from my small experience
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