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 Post subject: BMW E36 Pops and Bangs and so on
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:33 am 
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Hey guys,
im new to the forum and i´m trying to learn a bit more about the E36 Engines and ECUs.
Got an E36 328i and i want to try some PAB for fun. Looking forward to do some power increasement too.
I´m a mechanic and know a lot about Audi and VAG etc. But BMW is kind of new to me, so i´m happy to be around.

Trying the RomRaider software today and i´m really on fire.

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:46 am 
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Is it possible to achieve pops/bangs when decelerating or when revving the car on limiter without messing with the fuel restore table?
I have strange problem when i put my fuel restore above the limiter. When i rev my car the engine stalls and keeps staying on 5000rpm for instance This is also making the car undriveble.

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:44 pm 
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Well after i read the whole topic more than 3 times and did some tests, this is what i got without raising the fuel restore but playing with the RPM Hysteresis (Maximum) and the Delay Counter. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gldubGelIU
Too bad that the effect is very occasional
Didn't suceed in making a flame just after i hit the rpm limiter and didn't succeed in making a good flame without a smoke lol. Maybe need some fine tuning the ignition degrees and the amount of fuel in the base map.
It would be great if it is possible to achieve a flame like this E34 M5 in the video, or the RX7 after it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXYK9sr1kl8
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https://youtu.be/9FKsct9zdPg?t=103
this also looks great.

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:12 pm 
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I am trying to add pops and bangs to my e36 m52b20 ms41. It's my 14rd attempt and I'm only getting PF PF PF PF sound and little pops. I feel like I tried everything, I even tried to increase fuel dose by 0.30 but it sounds same as before.

Short clip showing my 'pops':
https://youtube.com/shorts/3VbFjoudRgE?feature=share


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:11 pm 
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guys , its possible to make only one/two shot on decelation ?
without using fuel restore table ?


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:18 pm 
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wiotki wrote:
guys , its possible to make only one/two shot on decelation ?
without using fuel restore table ?

Yes it is possible, check my bin. I get 1-2 fire shots


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:57 am 
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thank you , so you have changed hysteresis delay counter for that ?


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:25 am 
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daniel_rs wrote:
wiotki wrote:
guys , its possible to make only one/two shot on decelation ?
without using fuel restore table ?

Yes it is possible, check my bin. I get 1-2 fire shots

Wow so agressive ignition retard at the base map.
Isn't this harmful for the engine ? :roll:
I don't see different fuel period from stock. Maybe it shot fire because of the agressive fast ignition retard.

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:51 am 
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r19 wrote:
daniel_rs wrote:
wiotki wrote:
guys , its possible to make only one/two shot on decelation ?
without using fuel restore table ?

Yes it is possible, check my bin. I get 1-2 fire shots

Wow so agressive ignition retard at the base map.
Isn't this harmful for the engine ? :roll:
I don't see different fuel period from stock. Maybe it shot fire because of the agressive fast ignition retard.

I think any shots are bad for the engine. Especially when gasoline is pouring. The only thing I don't like is my rev limit when the car is unloaded, that is, it stands still. I have a custom free flow exhaust, m50b28 stroker, but the injectors are from m52b25. I have big flame shots while slowing down

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:11 pm 
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Hello,

tried some tips forum, and finally made some bigger flames. Video Here: https://youtube.com/shorts/YVaGqIIE9dg?feature=share


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:03 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUJlVTMLoj0
So how about this one. :)
Does anyone know how its made? :oops:
It may not refer to "Deceleration" but looks interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:10 pm 
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Hey folks!
Looking to do a flame tune on an M52B25.
So far I’ve been working in “deacceleration” and gotten pops and bangs and small flames.
Now I’m just wondering if me adding the right fuel is the best option I have?
Looking to do medium to big flames.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 am 
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r19 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUJlVTMLoj0
So how about this one. :)
Does anyone know how its made? :oops:
It may not refer to "Deceleration" but looks interesting.


I think its different ecu. MS41 turn off injectors at limiter. To achieve this you need turn off ignition at limiter.


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 Post subject: Bmw E39 528i
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:01 pm 
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Hello, i have a e39 528i and i want to Tune some pops & Bangs on it, Can i do that with romraider?


Hello, im new on here, my name is Kevin and im From Denmark and 25yrs Old, i have an bmw e39 528i and a bmw E90 320D M47


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:55 am 
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r19 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUJlVTMLoj0
So how about this one. :)
Does anyone know how its made? :oops:
It may not refer to "Deceleration" but looks interesting.

take a look at this , made with ms41 and romraider https://youtube.com/shorts/XXIWtxN1H74?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/EMWiHbuhZoM?feature=share


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