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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:27 am 
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Hi,

I have done the pazi settings for exhaust popping ...it works but rapidly become annoying
Let me know if you somebody can do this from ms41.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvDh6GvsHAA - It use vems standalone

Log to see what load it use when the car stand still at rev limiter.. retard the ignition there ...but nothing happens.
Sorry for bad english

Thx


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:24 am 
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Hi All

Been messing with the Hysteresis again.
Setting my maximum to 7000rpm and Delay to 98.

This has actually illuminated the pops and crackles and has produced a heavy ordure of fuel and at random points off throttle i get a massive bang and big old flame.

can anyone explain what the Maximum setting does, i have read the explanations on the tables but to be honest its a grey area as everyone is still developing there own maps and settings and knowledge as to what everything really does and just wondering if anyone has clearer info as to what these settings end up doing.


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 Post subject: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:02 pm 
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Hey, I know that this topic is here for a long time but il try it. I have BMW e36 328i 96 m52b28 . :-)
Some mods like catless exhaust m50 manifold. Iam looking for pops from exhaust. i think it is deceleration fuel cut. link here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4fmp6H5iHA . Can somebody help me with this?
PS: sorry for my bad english iam from Slovakia Cheers. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:45 pm 
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The tuner who tuned that car in the video regularly visits this forum.

You should also visit this thread viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11393
most of it has been answered


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:06 am 
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Enabled wrote:
The tuner who tuned that car in the video regularly visits this forum.

You should also visit this thread viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11393
most of it has been answered

Just loking for right settings for the dme. Don't want to experiment with it cause i don't want to demage the engine :/


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:06 pm 
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e36jacob328i wrote:
Enabled wrote:
The tuner who tuned that car in the video regularly visits this forum.

You should also visit this thread viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11393
most of it has been answered

Just loking for right settings for the dme. Don't want to experiment with it cause i don't want to demage the engine :/


I heave read the deceleration thread so many times, long story short i have got mine to pop this way when coming off part throttle but coming off WOT i have not alot atall, nothing like in this vid, I have experimented until i was at the p[oint of pulling my hair out lol


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:07 pm 
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Enabled wrote:
The tuner who tuned that car in the video regularly visits this forum.

You should also visit this thread viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11393
most of it has been answered


who is this user?


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:08 pm 
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bcsauto wrote:
Hi,

I have done the pazi settings for exhaust popping ...it works but rapidly become annoying
Let me know if you somebody can do this from ms41.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvDh6GvsHAA - It use vems standalone

Log to see what load it use when the car stand still at rev limiter.. retard the ignition there ...but nothing happens.
Sorry for bad english

Thx

This is due to Ignition Cut based rev limiter. The stock ECU uses a Fuel Cut based rev limiter. I have no plans to look into changing the code to Ignition Cut based rev limiting.

Also, this video is clearly not of the car in 'Deceleration' mode...

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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:53 pm 
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328i-sport-rossi wrote:
e36jacob328i wrote:
Enabled wrote:
The tuner who tuned that car in the video regularly visits this forum.

You should also visit this thread viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11393
most of it has been answered

Just loking for right settings for the dme. Don't want to experiment with it cause i don't want to demage the engine :/


I heave read the deceleration thread so many times, long story short i have got mine to pop this way when coming off part throttle but coming off WOT i have not alot atall, nothing like in this vid, I have experimented until i was at the p[oint of pulling my hair out lol

Have any videos??? Intrested.


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:33 am 
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Funny you say this as i am videoing it this weekend, have also been told i am flaming a fair bit as well.
I just cant get it to do much when coming off WOT and i honestly cant believe nobody here has achieved this, It feels the ones that do make it happen don`t want or care to share that info and i find that a little ridiculous.
There is a guy "RK TUNES" that has achieved the perfect decel on the E36 , massive pops and burble from WOT so it is achievable, just a little more sharing of info, putting our heads together and it could be there.


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:04 am 
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328i-sport-rossi wrote:
Funny you say this as i am videoing it this weekend, have also been told i am flaming a fair bit as well.
I just cant get it to do much when coming off WOT and i honestly cant believe nobody here has achieved this, It feels the ones that do make it happen don`t want or care to share that info and i find that a little ridiculous.
There is a guy "RK TUNES" that has achieved the perfect decel on the E36 , massive pops and burble from WOT so it is achievable, just a little more sharing of info, putting our heads together and it could be there.

I posted my settings back in 2015....


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:50 am 
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busterhax wrote:
328i-sport-rossi wrote:
Funny you say this as i am videoing it this weekend, have also been told i am flaming a fair bit as well.
I just cant get it to do much when coming off WOT and i honestly cant believe nobody here has achieved this, It feels the ones that do make it happen don`t want or care to share that info and i find that a little ridiculous.
There is a guy "RK TUNES" that has achieved the perfect decel on the E36 , massive pops and burble from WOT so it is achievable, just a little more sharing of info, putting our heads together and it could be there.

I posted my settings back in 2015....


Correct, but you still mentioned timing not retarding enough and no mentioned of pops and bangs on decel from wot, seems a lot of people have this issue and not been cracked yet as to why although it is doable. I have played for hours/days with decel maps and just can't get the pop /back fire on wot gear change to happen. :(


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 Post subject: Re: MS41.0 Burble/pops
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:53 am 
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328i-sport-rossi wrote:
busterhax wrote:
328i-sport-rossi wrote:
Funny you say this as i am videoing it this weekend, have also been told i am flaming a fair bit as well.
I just cant get it to do much when coming off WOT and i honestly cant believe nobody here has achieved this, It feels the ones that do make it happen don`t want or care to share that info and i find that a little ridiculous.
There is a guy "RK TUNES" that has achieved the perfect decel on the E36 , massive pops and burble from WOT so it is achievable, just a little more sharing of info, putting our heads together and it could be there.

I posted my settings back in 2015....


Correct, but you still mentioned timing not retarding enough and no mentioned of pops and bangs on decel from wot, seems a lot of people have this issue and not been cracked yet as to why although it is doable. I have played for hours/days with decel maps and just can't get the pop /back fire on wot gear change to happen. :(

You must not have read all of my posts. I was able to get target ignition to whatever I wanted. -10 with crazy annoying bangs and +10 for a nice crackle. It worked at all RPMs.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:08 pm 
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I totally get that and I understand where
You are comin from, off throttle I have mine retarding down to -25 and it happily sits there until back on throttle but no cracks or bangs atall, getting the timing down it easy part I think but how did you manage the fueling, are you adding still on decel via messing with the hysteresis?


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:10 pm 
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I have literally just taken a photo while on the train from my laptop showing the retard when coming off wot, you will know what your looking at, I just don't get the pops or bangs.


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