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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:57 am 
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so ive used pazzi's suggestion pops and bangs using the fuel restore rpm above the limiter along with changing the other 2 settings with no avail.. i get nothing? ill attach my partial dump for you guys to see if ive done anything wrong but i cant imagine thats the case.. i want loud pops and bangs btw..


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:07 pm 
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tested what pazi said and it kinda works :D got straight pipe on 2 mufflers
set the dashpot at 4100+ to 60% all the way through tps% (didnt log the icv)
and retarded base timing to -20 at this rpm

it bangs little flames when shifting

deceleration tab untouched - everything left stock for 328i

is retarding timing at low load harmful for the engine?


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:30 am 
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misiasty wrote:
it bangs little flames when shifting

deceleration tab untouched - everything left stock for 328i

is retarding timing at low load harmful for the engine?


I would say not harmful, I have been running like this for over a year, flames on shifting plud pops and bangs, i had no luck with the decel tables.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:36 pm 
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Has anyone done something like this before? This is done on MS43 on a M54B25.. But something inside me is saying this should be possible too for the MS41 :p

https://youtu.be/sE4qMvrmFm0


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:45 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MfC_PAm_E

have someone edited the Deceleration like this video?
sonds like a carburador, no lags in Rev to the idle


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:29 pm 
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bernardo774 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MfC_PAm_E

have someone edited the Deceleration like this video?
sonds like a carburador, no lags in Rev to the idle


Yes. Sounds good and feels good when revving. But annoying af to drive daily because slighest thorttle lift causes car slow down like pressing brake.

That can be acheived with retard amout and step size changes.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:49 am 
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pazi88 wrote:
bernardo774 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MfC_PAm_E

have someone edited the Deceleration like this video?
sonds like a carburador, no lags in Rev to the idle


Yes. Sounds good and feels good when revving. But annoying af to drive daily because slighest thorttle lift causes car slow down like pressing brake.

That can be acheived with retard amout and step size changes.



I actually found the best way to achieve this was the settings in fast decreasing throttle detection. You can drop the threshold for how early it enters fast decreasing throttle mode... One of the main factors if I remember correctly was engine load.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:51 am 
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And the dashpot settings.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:00 pm 
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Following the above post, an example of what I've had a go with in the fast decrease detection.

Tables on top are what I've changed and tables below are factory 1429861 328i.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:00 pm 
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Hi for all RR Users. Sorry for my english ;)
I just started my adventure with ms41.
I started with simply thing. Hard rev on 7k rpm and little popcorn. I have oem exhaust with cat so i dont touch fuel map for more bangs :)
This is my setting if whos want put eye on it.

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https://youtu.be/StoPJMoPNmE
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_C9-9 ... ISdZU7wbhl


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 Post subject: Decel development
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:50 am 
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So.......
after a long time using RR now my tune is pretty sweet and happy with how the car performs so sue to snowy weather i have got MLV and what a game changer !!
Watching my logs playback via histograms i can see exactly what it going on with such a clear view.

So being bored i went back to the decel.
Everyone seems to like a pop and a bang now days, including myself but so far nobody has had success in terms of for example any running like an "RK Tunes" burble/flame tune.

I managed to get really good pops and flames at High RPM by retarding timing 6500 and down in the lowest 2 cell loads in the base timing and adding minimal fuel in those cells on base fueling and would work by feathering the throttle. it only worked by feathering the throttle, If i dont feather i have noticed that the Log does not follow the base timing i inputted at all on Decel or even the decel tables, it keeps timing pretty advanced. (PLEASE SEE ATTACHED IMAGE)

the timing only starts to come down at lower RPM, we all know that "RK TUNES" pops and bangs anywhere on decel so is there anything anyone has changed to get the decel tables retarding timings at high RPM on initial lift off.

I have worked on this before just for s*** and giggles but got nowhere, it must be something simple we are missing unless there is a table somewhere not defined yet.

The images shows decel after a WOT run, ( The blue line /circle show the route taken on letting off the throttle.

Any input welcome


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 Post subject: Re: Decel development
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 am 
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328i-sport-rossi wrote:
So.......
after a long time using RR now my tune is pretty sweet and happy with how the car performs so sue to snowy weather i have got MLV and what a game changer !!
Watching my logs playback via histograms i can see exactly what it going on with such a clear view.

So being bored i went back to the decel.
Everyone seems to like a pop and a bang now days, including myself but so far nobody has had success in terms of for example any running like an "RK Tunes" burble/flame tune.

I managed to get really good pops and flames at High RPM by retarding timing 6500 and down in the lowest 2 cell loads in the base timing and adding minimal fuel in those cells on base fueling and would work by feathering the throttle. it only worked by feathering the throttle, If i dont feather i have noticed that the Log does not follow the base timing i inputted at all on Decel or even the decel tables, it keeps timing pretty advanced. (PLEASE SEE ATTACHED IMAGE)

the timing only starts to come down at lower RPM, we all know that "RK TUNES" pops and bangs anywhere on decel so is there anything anyone has changed to get the decel tables retarding timings at high RPM on initial lift off.

I have worked on this before just for s*** and giggles but got nowhere, it must be something simple we are missing unless there is a table somewhere not defined yet.

The images shows decel after a WOT run, ( The blue line /circle show the route taken on letting off the throttle.

Any input welcome
Did you change the ICV maps to?, 'that worked allot better for me, with a bit more rev hang. But not much. I have defined the icv maps in my other thread about more crackle mods.

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 Post subject: Re: Decel development
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am 
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Richard wrote:
328i-sport-rossi wrote:
So.......
after a long time using RR now my tune is pretty sweet and happy with how the car performs so sue to snowy weather i have got MLV and what a game changer !!
Watching my logs playback via histograms i can see exactly what it going on with such a clear view.

So being bored i went back to the decel.
Everyone seems to like a pop and a bang now days, including myself but so far nobody has had success in terms of for example any running like an "RK Tunes" burble/flame tune.

I managed to get really good pops and flames at High RPM by retarding timing 6500 and down in the lowest 2 cell loads in the base timing and adding minimal fuel in those cells on base fueling and would work by feathering the throttle. it only worked by feathering the throttle, If i dont feather i have noticed that the Log does not follow the base timing i inputted at all on Decel or even the decel tables, it keeps timing pretty advanced. (PLEASE SEE ATTACHED IMAGE)

the timing only starts to come down at lower RPM, we all know that "RK TUNES" pops and bangs anywhere on decel so is there anything anyone has changed to get the decel tables retarding timings at high RPM on initial lift off.

I have worked on this before just for s*** and giggles but got nowhere, it must be something simple we are missing unless there is a table somewhere not defined yet.

The images shows decel after a WOT run, ( The blue line /circle show the route taken on letting off the throttle.

Any input welcome
Did you change the ICV maps to?, 'that worked allot better for me, with a bit more rev hang. But not much. I have defined the icv maps in my other thread about more crackle mods.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn G8441 met Tapatalk


Thats for an E46 though right ? doesnt seem to be as active on the e36 (MS41.2) .
you dont list what was changed on icv tables? i can just see what you retarded in the deceleration tables.


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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:18 am 
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328i-sport-rossi wrote:
Richard wrote:
328i-sport-rossi wrote:
So.......
after a long time using RR now my tune is pretty sweet and happy with how the car performs so sue to snowy weather i have got MLV and what a game changer !!
Watching my logs playback via histograms i can see exactly what it going on with such a clear view.

So being bored i went back to the decel.
Everyone seems to like a pop and a bang now days, including myself but so far nobody has had success in terms of for example any running like an "RK Tunes" burble/flame tune.

I managed to get really good pops and flames at High RPM by retarding timing 6500 and down in the lowest 2 cell loads in the base timing and adding minimal fuel in those cells on base fueling and would work by feathering the throttle. it only worked by feathering the throttle, If i dont feather i have noticed that the Log does not follow the base timing i inputted at all on Decel or even the decel tables, it keeps timing pretty advanced. (PLEASE SEE ATTACHED IMAGE)

the timing only starts to come down at lower RPM, we all know that "RK TUNES" pops and bangs anywhere on decel so is there anything anyone has changed to get the decel tables retarding timings at high RPM on initial lift off.

I have worked on this before just for s*** and giggles but got nowhere, it must be something simple we are missing unless there is a table somewhere not defined yet.

The images shows decel after a WOT run, ( The blue line /circle show the route taken on letting off the throttle.

Any input welcome
Did you change the ICV maps to?, 'that worked allot better for me, with a bit more rev hang. But not much. I have defined the icv maps in my other thread about more crackle mods.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn G8441 met Tapatalk


Thats for an E46 though right ? doesnt seem to be as active on the e36 (MS41.2) .
you dont list what was changed on icv tables? i can just see what you retarded in the deceleration tables.
I thought you had ms42,. But 41 uses icv to

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 Post subject: Re: Deceleration
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:40 pm 
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Hi guys,

I was tuning an ECU with an internet guy to get pop corn.

I am already starting from a map to adapt the m50 intake, exhaust and filter in my M52.

Then I commented to add even more pop corn when you raise the pedal and step very lightly modifying the Ignition Base.

Can someone tell me that he sees the map? If it is safe, or there are simpler methods.

Regards.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eWUAq ... KTy7pTkcyK


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