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 Post subject: How to raise manifold pressure on 2.0 Diesel
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:54 am 
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Hello!

as the title says - how to raise manifold pressure more than 255kpa?

Target boost map allows maximum value of 255, and that is in kpa. 255 - 100 atmospheric is around 22.5 psi, I would like to squeeze out little more than that.

How to do it? Do I have to edit boost pressure control valve maps?
Or boost sensor scaling needs to be changed?
And what about boost limit maps?

This is for E5 2010 Subaru diesel.

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 Post subject: Re: How to raise manifold pressure on 2.0 Diesel
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:03 am 
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There are differend kinds of ways, witch has differend kind of effects, but at the end all provides more airmass inside the combustmend camber:

1) chance factor of base charge air pressure map:

advantages:
only one map to chance. ECU works with linear boost extension, no need to chance pressure limits for error detection.
Very good for boost-pressure calculaion.

dis-advantages:
charge air pressure set- and actual value for SSM-logging are limitied to 255kPa, so you don“t see boost pressure behaviour.
ECU-parameter can diplay "real" boost pressure, but needs to be read by UDS Mode0x23 in EURO5 Diesels, witch RomRaider does not support yet.
Also ECU-Parameter adress are not known jet

This way works perfect in EURO4 Impreza dumps and is supported by RomRaider on SSM-III

2) chance charge air pressure sensor calibration

advantages:
"normal" logging with SSM is possible, but needs to be adapted
lineare boost extension is possible

dis-advantages:
needs a compleate recale of ALL boost-pressure and boost-pressure releated maps, as well as limits for error detection.
needs to recale pressure calculation in SSM logging.

RomRaider supports allready this way of extions for PARIA-diesel-maps (P301 and P302) upto 301kPa, witch is more then enought for stock turbo.

Develloped both ways.
1) is perfect for EURO4 Diesel, 2) is a workable work-around for EURO5 but needs a lot more work

BR
Jochen

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 Post subject: Re: How to raise manifold pressure on 2.0 Diesel
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 6:04 am 
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thank you for information.

maybe you can add step-by-step instructions for method 2.?

My idea was - if I have boost pressure base map set at 255kpa
with stock scaling (66.661 multiplier and 33.331 offset) 255kpa is when sensor reads ~3.33 volts (pressure=multiplier*volts+offset)

if I change multiplier to 60.661 pressure at 3.33 volts would be ~235kpa which means ECU would raise boost to 255kpa (3.6volts). and if scaling is changed by ~10%, boost increase also should be ~10% which would be ~280kpa.

Am I right or totaly wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: How to raise manifold pressure on 2.0 Diesel
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:07 pm 
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Jochen_145 wrote:
Develloped both ways.
1) is perfect for EURO4 Diesel, 2) is a workable work-around for EURO5 but needs a lot more work

BR
Jochen


Maybe you have some example rom for EURO5 you could share?


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 Post subject: Re: How to raise manifold pressure on 2.0 Diesel
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:01 pm 
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Here is my stock impreza 2.0. euro 5. JZ4A211C. definitions are on the forum. i have only 109hp tho, which is complete and utter BS. so if you have a 150hp rom to share with the gang, it would be greatly appreciated :D


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