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crystal_imprezav
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:03 am |
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If you don't need to log the raw data for the wideband, I could do the testing for you. I think I could do it through logworks or at worse compare what I see between two logs.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:11 am |
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We would need to log the raw data at the same time as the wideband.
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crystal_imprezav
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:38 am |
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Should be able to do it with logworks. Just need to mod the xml def. to record raw data instead of a calculated value.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:25 pm |
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EDIT: nevermind, it should actually be the same as "A/F Sensor #1 Current". If someone can log this with wideband data, then it should tell us what kind of range the front o2 might have, depending on your fuel map.
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qoncept
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:06 pm |
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Here's the protocol xml file from LogWorks. Couldn't find it last night because I had an old version installed. Adding the front o2 current to this would be the easiest way to log.
Edit: Here's another (untested) version with front o2 added. I'll try it out here in a bit.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:47 pm |
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A separate variable needs to be logged for 16bit ecus. "A/F Sensor #1 Current" isn't going to give us what we need.
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Jon [in CT]
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:49 pm |
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Can you post the data from one of these tables? Are the tables identical for all ECUs?
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qoncept
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:51 pm |
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Here's a log of current, resistance, AFR from the front sensor, and AFR from the LC1. Apparantly I screwed something up at some point in the testing so the front o2 AFR is off, but everything else should be correct.
It looks like the current is just 0 at 11.25 AFR. No way to get around that. Oh well.
I'm having a hard time getting the hang of LogWorks.
Edit: Blue is LC-1, black is front o2. This would be a whole lot easier to look at if I could scale the input to the whole screen but I cant figure it out.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:27 pm |
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Jon [in CT] wrote: Can you post the data from one of these tables? Are the tables identical for all ECUs?
The 16bit front o2 scaling is already defined in the definitions but I haven't had a chance to make sense of the input which is calculated from "A/F Sensor #1 Current", but also is based upon the previously calculated value.
Here's an SS for an 06 wrx, for which the 32bit ecus use the A/F sensor #1 current value as an input. There's also an atmospheric compensation table (not shown).
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qoncept
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:42 pm |
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Are you sure the axis is scaled correctly? I don't know what input it could be using that would have negative values (resistance, voltage, or current). The current, from my logs, doesn't look to be linear.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:47 pm |
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Yes, the axis is correct.
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Jon [in CT]
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:19 pm |
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Use 14.5 as the stoichiometric A/F ratio instead of 14.7 and then you'll see what FHI engineers see when they look at that table.
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merchgod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:27 pm |
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Allright, plus here's the unmolested output:
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Jon [in CT]
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:31 pm |
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The AFR to current flow relationship seems to match what Denso has published.

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Freon
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:56 am |
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Well, this shouldn't be hard to set the first data point to header of -1.9 and AFR of 10, voila! Of course this doesn't help the fact it is WAY off anyway, but if you were going to try to test it post turbo.
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