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 Post subject: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:12 pm 
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I must admit the factory tune on the legacy 3.6 is not so bad. I usually don't say this about factory tunes as almost most of them are horrifically lean at low-midrange for emissions and fuel economy purposes. However it's possible to have the best of both worlds. I spent a lot of resources on this tune and ended up with the conclusion that without extensive hardware modifications such as a headerback exhaust, intake and (cams if possible) there are minimal gains at full throttle with the ECU tune.

The biggest problem with this map is the super rich top end and the stoich/lean bottom end. The mid range runs in 12-13s stock with ample timing and intake CAM advance as required. In fact the AVCS itself is tuned for power and I did not manage to increase power too much with various AVCS combinations. However on some runs a little exhaust retard did provide top end gains but it was not always reliable. Most of the gains came from leaner fuelling and less mid-top end ignition timing (that's right retarding timing gained me power). The biggest plus in this tune for me is the linear but sharp thottle mapping that I made. It feels a lot more responsive and removes the throttle governor at lower RPMs. The downshifts from 4-3-2-1 are also slightly quicker. The hesitation I was experiencing is also gone at 3500 rpm and on throttle lift off. there were roughly 15whp and 20wtq gains on the dyno but i feel as though the gains at part throttle were even more significant. However the dyno is from an old revision, the latest map is probably making a few more ponies. Please note if you have the factory intake, use the stock subaru MAF scaling table! The MAF has been scaled for Takeda Stage 2 CA Intake on my maps!

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Features:

- MAF scaled for afe takeda CA Intake
- max engine load B set at 3g/rev
- CL/OL delay disabled / zeroed
- open loop fuel map revised for better power and throttle response
- closed loop fuel map revised for better throttle response and cruising economy
- ignition timing completely revised for reliable power
- AVCS touched up for better power, specially at low and high RPM
- coolant fan temperature thresholds lowered
- retarded overrun for pops/bangs on lift off
- throttle/dbw tuned for linear but sharp design
- 3500-4500 rpm hesitation and rev hang tuned out
- many more changes...


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File comment: Stage 2 - aFe Takeda Intake and Exhaust
tuned on 91 octane ethanol-free
DE5M301C

rev32_legacy_36r_91octane_aFE.bin.zip [462.18 KiB]
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File comment: OLD VERSION
rev24_legacy_36r_91octane.bin.zip [462.28 KiB]
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File comment: OLD VERSION
rev19_legacy_36r_91octane.bin.zip [462.22 KiB]
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Last edited by pickler on Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:12 am, edited 4 times in total.
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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:26 pm 
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Excellent post, and timely too! I am putting an EZ36R out of a 2013 Outback into a track car I am building and was looking for a improved tune for an otherwise stock engine.

Thank you for sharing!


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:00 pm 
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Good too see more results on the 3.6

Once your tuner touch more tables, the shifting would be greater.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:36 am 
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How did you tune out the Rev hang? I downloaded your bin and couldnt find what you did. I would love to get rid of it on my car! Gets so annoying

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:23 am 
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I upgraded my customer to the 2014 rom and awaiting next week for full tuning. None of my customers complains about that.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Subaru Legacy 3.6R (DE5M301C) 91 octane tune
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:45 am 
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Hey @pickler any chance you are still around?


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