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 Post subject: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:06 pm 
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I have tried to extend the load axis, both by using the multiplier button in RR, as well as copying the row into excel and scaling and then pasting it back.

However, when I save, and then re-open the file, the old values are present. The change doesn't "stick".

I am able to manipulate the individual cells in the table successfully, both in RR and excel/RR

Am I missing something?

Just as a reference, this is a turbo tune going from the stock NA map (max load 700 mg/stroke) to 1024 as Pazi has suggested. I am leaning out under full boost and hitting lean AFR cut (SCG-1)

Or does anyone have a start point E85 80#/7psi fuel map they could share?? I looked at Northern's WIP fuel map-just need to figure out how to scale the axis.


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:11 am 
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There is separate load/rpm axis tables. You need to edit those.


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:37 am 
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Thank you pazi, I will look for those


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm 
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Something I've wondered about for quite a while, I'm glad this thread was brought up, what method do you all use for scaling the load axis? Max MAF value in Kg/hr converted to load or something different? As well as how you all decide the appropriate resolution to use on the scale since it would probably have to be edited all the way across.


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:31 pm 
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mr_hotrod wrote:
Something I've wondered about for quite a while, I'm glad this thread was brought up, what method do you all use for scaling the load axis? Max MAF value in Kg/hr converted to load or something different? As well as how you all decide the appropriate resolution to use on the scale since it would probably have to be edited all the way across.

I choose values that the car is frequently in. Idle, cruising, etc. For max, I go above what the car's max load is.


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:49 pm 
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busterhax wrote:
mr_hotrod wrote:
Something I've wondered about for quite a while, I'm glad this thread was brought up, what method do you all use for scaling the load axis? Max MAF value in Kg/hr converted to load or something different? As well as how you all decide the appropriate resolution to use on the scale since it would probably have to be edited all the way across.

I choose values that the car is frequently in. Idle, cruising, etc. For max, I go above what the car's max load is.

Not that I need to validate anything busterhax says but this is exactly the strategy I would go for.

Also, eventually my custom code will include larger fuel/timing maps so you don't have to sacrifice on resolution as much. Sorry for the delay.

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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:18 pm 
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Sadly I have to refresh the thread.
I don't get it. I change the values in fuel/ignition timing - axis and the axis value change, but whole table stays the same and for example I can put 1000 instead of 50 and there still is 0,80ms IPW. How can I rescale IPW to new load axis values?

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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:53 pm 
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Romraider wont do that for you.

Download the mafscaling2.4.2 java application which has a table rescale function.
copy your stock table in, the modify the axis headers and it will then interpolate/extrapolate the cell values.

Then paste it back into RR


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:08 pm 
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Ok. I thought that maybe there is a chance that RR will do :D haha

I've spent 2 hours in excel today.. :D I will check my result vs this app result, thanks. What about ignition maps? Also, I have to do base maps and vanos correction yup?

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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:11 am 
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ba114 wrote:
Romraider wont do that for you.

Download the mafscaling2.4.2 java application which has a table rescale function.
copy your stock table in, the modify the axis headers and it will then interpolate/extrapolate the cell values.

Then paste it back into RR
Where can i download this program


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:20 pm 
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did you try searching for the exact text that i wrote?


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 Post subject: Re: Extending the Load Axis on fuel maps
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:23 pm 
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ba114 wrote:
did you try searching for the exact text that i wrote?

yeah took me for ever to figure out since you didnt specify so i googled for lik 15 mins to find the actual link. thanks for the help though regardless.


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