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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:30 am |
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Indy Dual FXT's wrote: Docblocs wrote: hey buddy thanks for the reply! Would this run ok with stock usdm 05 injectors? Should be fine with stock injectors, mine are stock. Just make sure you log knock just after flash. One thing to note is in '06, Subaru changed the intake manifold and the compression ratio was increased slightly. Your '05 will have lower compression so less likely to knock. Good luck and happy tuning! Had not though about that. My concern is more to do with the 06 being canbus and the 05 not. Would the map be completely different? My stock map has different tables to yours, see attached
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:36 am |
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:09 am |
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Docblocs wrote: screenshot rr comparison hi docblocs u have the same rom as me but me i change the injector for the jdm pink top feed and the maf i scale take ur setting for the injector and the maf and u can try my rom Indy Dual FXT's i had to pull some deg i got some knock around 2400 at 3200 rpm and around 1.10 load
_________________ Sorry for my english i try... From Mtl QC
Forester 2005 XT A/T - D25 head Td0620g dw1000cc perrin FRail cosworth tgvdel 3"dp 3"atw FMIC Legacy GTB 2000 A/T JDM - Ej208 rev D twin turbski twin dp 3" straight - storage until 2025
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:00 pm |
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Thanks buddy, I looked at your rom, the pop and bangs are not quite what I'm after as this is a DD. I also have a 3" catted dp and 3" CB. Not sure if my stock injector tables would run lean with the extra boost on your ROM.
Just starting out with mapping so want to play it safe!
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:59 pm |
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Indy Dual FXT's wrote: Docblocs wrote: hey buddy thanks for the reply! Would this run ok with stock usdm 05 injectors? Should be fine with stock injectors, mine are stock. Just make sure you log knock just after flash. One thing to note is in '06, Subaru changed the intake manifold and the compression ratio was increased slightly. Your '05 will have lower compression so less likely to knock. Good luck and happy tuning! Just flashed this but my 05FXT AT will not start. Reverting to stock..
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:35 pm |
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Docblocs wrote: Indy Dual FXT's wrote: Docblocs wrote: hey buddy thanks for the reply! Would this run ok with stock usdm 05 injectors? Should be fine with stock injectors, mine are stock. Just make sure you log knock just after flash. One thing to note is in '06, Subaru changed the intake manifold and the compression ratio was increased slightly. Your '05 will have lower compression so less likely to knock. Good luck and happy tuning! Just flashed this but my 05FXT AT will not start. Reverting to stock.. u have to stick with a2wc412d any other like 2006 and up dont work
_________________ Sorry for my english i try... From Mtl QC
Forester 2005 XT A/T - D25 head Td0620g dw1000cc perrin FRail cosworth tgvdel 3"dp 3"atw FMIC Legacy GTB 2000 A/T JDM - Ej208 rev D twin turbski twin dp 3" straight - storage until 2025
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:14 pm |
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Docblocs wrote: Just flashed this but my 05FXT AT will not start. Reverting to stock.. As already mentioned, you should be copy and pasting the data from common tables into your ROM using Romraider, probably not a good idea to flash someone else's ROM straight to your car. Good luck and happy tuning!
_________________ '06 FXT 4EAT, VF39, STI TMIC, Big Scoop, Invidia 3" catted Downpipe, STI Catback, Cobb inlet, MTX-L+ wideband, '04 STI BBS wheels, Owner tuned, Daily driver
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:29 pm |
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Updates: So this past weekend I installed my fresh VF39, Downpipe, Innovate MTX-L+ wideband O2 sensor and my "big" hood scoop. Two 2-3 hour mornings and the final days about 4 hours and everything came out really good. A few tough/rusty bolts here and there but overall a smooth job. I am especially happy with the downpipe. It came with my Foz when I bought it last year, not entirely sure what brand, the previous owner thought it could be Invidia but either way it is of beautiful quality, thick flanges and it fits perfectly, turbo to cat-back and the support bracket was spot on! I was able to massage my stock TD04 heat shield over the VF39 and then fabricated a small heat shield over the bung for the wideband, should keep things cool enough to keep my sensor alive. So I flashed a "safe" ROM, 2 degrees of base timing pulled across entire table, my TD04 boost target table and both initial WGDC & Max WGDC tables at zero. Fired her up, checked for leaks let it idle for about 20 minutes as I cleaned up my garage then went out and did some "cruise logging". No issues, no knocking (none was expected), obviously a little doggy with zero wastegate, but no biggy. I guess trying to "break in" the new bushings in the turbo for a short drive. After a bit got a little into 100% throttle and was surprised to get 12-14 psi boost, I guess that's the stronger STI wastegate spring, good for 14 PSI I think. So from there I have set my target boost at 18 PSI at 100% throttle and am working my way up with WGDC working towards that boost. My primary guide for tuning is the "A Complete Tuning Guide" by Bad Noodle from NASIOC. I have read it many many times and going to stay focused on the "Tuning Boost" section for a while. I went out three times early this morning and am inching towards the 18 psi, currently at 56% duty cycle and about 16 psi. What I can say so far is the VF39 is performing as advertised, spooling around 3200 and holding the 16 PSI to my 6500 redline. My goal is to get to my target 18 psi then work on smoothing out my boost & WGDC tables for driveabilty. Then move on to tuning fuel and lastly timing. Back to work tomorrow, but happy to have the parts bolted on and Fozzy back on the road for my work week. I likely will flash and log these next few days on my way to work, seems to work out pretty good for me. Time to burn through some tanks of gas Oh yeah and as for my wideband. Works great, very responsive and my AFRs are fine/safe when I'm logging at full throttle. Not talking with Romraider yet...When I initially fired my car up I was able to see my AFRs on Romraider, then Romraider disconnected and I'm seeing nothing but zeroes ever since. Need to work on that, possibly need to load the driver for my USB to serial port cable? I'll get it working but any suggestions from other users would be great! My laptop only has one functioning USB port, so I'm using an Anker USB hub and have both my Tactrix and my wideband going into the hub. Again could be a driver issue, a set-up sequence issue or something else?? I will get back into posting my ROMs and logs in the coming days/weeks. As always appreciate any and all feedback, suggestions and comments.
_________________ '06 FXT 4EAT, VF39, STI TMIC, Big Scoop, Invidia 3" catted Downpipe, STI Catback, Cobb inlet, MTX-L+ wideband, '04 STI BBS wheels, Owner tuned, Daily driver
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:08 am |
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OK, finally able to post where I am at with my tuning. Trying to dial in my boost. I've flashed my ROM about 10 times since I installed my VF39 & downpipe. My goal and target boost is 18psi so I've been trying to stretch this goal across my RPM range and have come to the conclusion I can make the 18 psi from about 3500-5000 RPMs. It is interesting how small increases of initial WGDC effects actual boost, up to a point and I've reached that point. So I looked at my past few ROMs and logs collectively, established what my set-up was capable or happy with, then dialed back my Target Boost table and then tweaked my WGDC tables to what I thought should be about right and the resulting logs are attached. My boost numbers stayed about the same as the previous ROM, but my WGDC's went way up. For example, when I was asking for 18psi @ 6000 RPMs with intital WGDC @ 75%, I made 15.09 psi of boost. On my newest ROM, when I ask for 15 psi @ 6000 RPMs with initial WGDC @ 80%, I made my 15 psi, but my WGDC rose to 94.9% (my max is set @ 90%). After typing that I think what I did was asked for less boost, but increased my WGDC which resulted in mush higher (too high!) WGDC's. Am I right? I think with my next flash, I'll lower my WGDC cells 5500, 6000 & 6500 to 70% and see what the results are and tweek from there. Its great to compare logs after minor tweaks, can really see the results I keep saying I'm going to finalize my boost & move onto fuel, but still having problems with my wideband and Romraider. I have had a few logs where my wideband was logging and will say the front O2 sensor parameter of A/F Sensor #1 (2-byte)** (estimated AFR) is pretty dang close to my wideband in OL, so I continue to log that parameter until I can get my wideband logging properly. AFR's are fine for the moment while I finish up my boost. Need some help with my table scaling if anyone could look at my scaling. Many of my tables are maxed out at 2.50 g/rev loads and I am now seeing loads as high as 3.30 g/rev during shifts and in the 3.10g/rev ballpark during my 2nd gear pulls. Looking for advise on which tables I need to re-scale for the higher loads??  Thank you! As far as seat of the pants drivability with my new set up, I did have my TD04 dialed in pretty good and it was quick & responsive from idle to 5500 RPMs so a blast to drive, but was a little notchy and hyper/high-strung. I would say now with my VF39 set up, my FOZ is every bit as fast and feels more "torquey" from stoplight to stoplight, maybe a little doggy off idle vs. my TD04, but gets-to spoolin and the pull from mid to up top is pretty awesome and constant, feels like my engine isn't having to work as hard, so overall very happy so far and am excited to get my tune further dialed in. Again as always appreciate any and all suggestions and feedback and help with my higher load scaling would be great!!  Happy Tuning!! Dave
_________________ '06 FXT 4EAT, VF39, STI TMIC, Big Scoop, Invidia 3" catted Downpipe, STI Catback, Cobb inlet, MTX-L+ wideband, '04 STI BBS wheels, Owner tuned, Daily driver
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:34 pm |
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Wish I had the knowledge to give you advise but appears your ahead of me there but keep at it and ty for keeping your thread going  Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:40 pm |
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cloudizzle wrote: Wish I had the knowledge to give you advise but appears your ahead of me there but keep at it and ty for keeping your thread going  Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk Thanks Cloudizzle! Appreciate your support!!  Going to give vgi's Maf Scaling Utility a try for re-scaling my maps, looks like a lot of people have been happy with the results. Also believe I figured out last night my issue with my wideband not talking with Romraider, my weekend starts this afternoon so more tuning to follow. Also very happy with my re-location of my wideband gauge, I initially installed it on my steering column, but quickly determined I didn't need to be looking at it all the time and I don't really keep anything in the dash compartment. I had grabbed a spare compartment assembly from the junkyard a while back, so put it to use. There is not much space in the back under the compartment in the middle, but I did find in the corners the wires can be run with no issues, so tucked the gauge in the back right corner. If I ever go with a boost gauge, I will put it in the other corner. Out of site out of mind except when I'm tuning. 
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_________________ '06 FXT 4EAT, VF39, STI TMIC, Big Scoop, Invidia 3" catted Downpipe, STI Catback, Cobb inlet, MTX-L+ wideband, '04 STI BBS wheels, Owner tuned, Daily driver
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Post subject: Re: '06 USDM FXT 4EAT Stage 1 & 2 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:08 pm |
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Year and a half late, how is she running?
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