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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:23 pm 
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Nedim wrote:
Is it possible to write your e46 2.8 file to my e46 323. With purpose more Hp.


No need, just flash the euro 523/323 partial to your car.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:25 pm 
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323toslow wrote:
Nedim wrote:
Is it possible to write your e46 2.8 file to my e46 323. With purpose more Hp.


No need, just flash the euro 523/323 partial to your car.


I wanted to flash 328 190 hp file to my e46 325 170 hp because i think it will run 20 hp more


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:27 am 
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Nedim wrote:
323toslow wrote:
Nedim wrote:
Is it possible to write your e46 2.8 file to my e46 323. With purpose more Hp.


No need, just flash the euro 523/323 partial to your car.


I wanted to flash 328 190 hp file to my e46 325 170 hp because i think it will run 20 hp more


Won't work. B28 is limited the same way.

To unleash m52tub25 you have to use m54b22/25 intake system, exhaust and copy all important maps from MS43 b25 tune to ms42, or convert to DBW and ms43. Either case, don't use this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:38 am 
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Both: E46, 320i Manual, European.
Version:AB


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:00 pm 
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I'm gonna ask here because i just cant found any files from UK or RHD of the MS42.

I'm looking for a stock file from 320I E46 RHD

Was to be RHD because the exhaust configuration, the cats are underfloor with the same headers as M52 engine (yes this exists from factory on the m52tu and m54 engines in the UK version).

The exhaust its this:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=18_0329

And i'm looking for the oem software:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=12_0897

Exch. control unit DME programmed MS42/ FLASH 1 12147528764

Why i'm looking this, because there are many diferences in the files from the M54B22 LHD to RHD mainly related to the catalytic heat, ignition, injection and etc.

I want to discover and compare files to the normal cat (manifold cats) and report to the MS4X comunnity the diferences like already found on the MS43.

So if someone have stock files from those please post it.

Or if someone in UK with an RHD car with the cats underfloor like those please post.

Regards


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:57 am 
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Just flash it with WinKFP using recent enough daten files...


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:11 am 
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That file i need isnt present on the WINKFP...

I have checked many SP-Datens...


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:47 am 
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search for ZUSB 7545424 in winkfp. That is the latest version for your ECUs


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:02 am 
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ba114 wrote:
search for ZUSB 7545424 in winkfp. That is the latest version for your ECUs


Did you even read what i have write?

Did u understand what i said?

You said me to use this:

12147545424
Exch. control unit DME programmed
MS43

On MS42 ECU?

Dude read again what i said.

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:08 am 
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andrebrito88 wrote:
That file i need isnt present on the WINKFP...

I have checked many SP-Datens...

Use newest daten files from ISTA-P 3.67.0 - I have files for this ZUSB there :)
You can download those E46 daten files here.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:17 pm 
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andrebrito88 wrote:
ba114 wrote:
search for ZUSB 7545424 in winkfp. That is the latest version for your ECUs


Did you even read what i have write?

Did u understand what i said?

You said me to use this:

12147545424
Exch. control unit DME programmed
MS43

On MS42 ECU?

Dude read again what i said.

Thanks


Yep misread, forgot i was in MS42 forum and you continued to bounce around different engine models and ECU versions in your post. I simply went to the last production date for e46 320i which did change over to MS43 when it changed from the M52 to M54 engine in late 1999.

You can cut out the attitude though, people make mistakes.

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E46-S ... #7528776_1

Based on this, 7528764 might actually be for cars with cats in the headers. The ZUSB you want in winkfp is 7528766. Have you looked for that?


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:05 am 
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Sometimes we are tired about smart guys around telling s***, wasnt that the case, i was pissed the other day sorry.

The 7528766 you mentioned its for low compression models and EU2

The catalytic in the description got: RP-catalytic conv. with center muffler EU3

Kinda pain in the ass to understand bmw software diferences with those descriprions...

The thing is, was to be another software... from the LHD to RHD because the type of Cat, like in the M54 engines...

ba114 wrote:
andrebrito88 wrote:
ba114 wrote:
search for ZUSB 7545424 in winkfp. That is the latest version for your ECUs


Did you even read what i have write?

Did u understand what i said?

You said me to use this:

12147545424
Exch. control unit DME programmed
MS43

On MS42 ECU?

Dude read again what i said.

Thanks


Yep misread, forgot i was in MS42 forum and you continued to bounce around different engine models and ECU versions in your post. I simply went to the last production date for e46 320i which did change over to MS43 when it changed from the M52 to M54 engine in late 1999.

You can cut out the attitude though, people make mistakes.

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E46-S ... #7528776_1

Based on this, 7528764 might actually be for cars with cats in the headers. The ZUSB you want in winkfp is 7528766. Have you looked for that?


Last edited by andrebrito88 on Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:20 am, edited 2 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:17 am 
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Fount it :O

Ok after digging for a few hours i understand the diferences of the systems and tunes.

In my case/car i got this from stock its an E46 320i from 99 LHD.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=12_0897

12147528776 this tune its same for ''EU2 exhaust emissions standard'' and ''Catalyzer preparation'' this means you can run no cats with it (cat-preparation) or if you have EU2 cats (those on the manifold) the tune fits ok.

Checking the available cats on my car i fount this:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=11_2183

''For vehicles with
EU2 exhaust emissions standard''

So the tune EU2 fits with the cats description, and those are the only cats available in the LHD version.

_________________________________

Now as i said before:

-I have the RHD no cat header (like the ones on M52)
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=11_2212

-I wil have the cats from RHD version (the underfloor ones that are EU3)
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=18_0329

And those are the only available cats in the RHD version.

So following the logic

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=12_0897

12147528776 ''EU2 exhaust emissions standard'' and ''Catalyzer preparation'' this tune its for no cat or mani-cat (available in RHD and LHD verions).
12147528764 ''Catalytic converter'' seems to be the EU3 ones, the RHD cats underfloor? (this tune, like the underfloor cats are not available for LHD versions).

You guys agree with the logic?


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 Stock ROMs list
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:21 am 
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I found this configuration exists on the M54B30 RHD too..

In the very first units the configuration its exactly the same...catless headers and underfloor cats until 9/2000.

After that they put 4 cats on the RHD version.

I will digg bit longer and compare more models to see that and will update this reply.


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