MS42 AD Logging - Knock Adaption Learned Values Table

n1kson · **Joined:** Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:26 pm **Posts:** 24

pazi88 wrote:

Do you have ms42 ecu definitions also selected in editor?

Yes

dschultz · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2018 12:48 pm

Can you provide more detail in the log?
http://www.romraider.com/RomRaider/HowToDebug

n1kson · **Joined:** Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:26 pm **Posts:** 24

I have deleted old one yesterday, so here it is:

dschultz · **Posted:** Fri May 18, 2018 3:27 am

That log doesn't have the detail needed, please follow the instructions to increase the log level.

n1kson · **Joined:** Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:26 pm **Posts:** 24

I removed other def files from RR Editor and it starts to work, but nothing happened in knock global (everywhere is 0 like as fuel enrichment) and retard.. again i only see knocks when ignition timing is dropping..

mapkrk · **Posted:** Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:47 pm

n1kson wrote:

Hello, i can't make knock tables work on MS42 0110CA 7526753 ECU... Also when logging knock adaptation, retard, and global don't work.... All other stuff like engine speed, maf, load and etc works great... Please help

Quote:

, trying serial connection...
46100 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Connected to: COM1
46104 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Serial connection initialised: SerialConnectionProperties[baudRate=9600, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=2, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=55]
46115 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Retrieving vehicle info & A/F values...
46493 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Current vehicle info & A/F values retrieved.
46765 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Retrieving Knock Load ranges...
48948 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Connection closed.
48951 ERROR [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Retrieving Knock Load ranges... Error retrieving values
com.romraider.logger.ecu.exception.InvalidResponseException: Invalid ecu id. Expected: 12. Actual: 00.
at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.assertEquals(DS2ResponseProcessor.java:84)
at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.validateResponse(DS2ResponseProcessor.java:59)
at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.extractResponseData(DS2ResponseProcessor.java:68)
at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2LoggerProtocol.processReadMemoryRangeResponse(DS2LoggerProtocol.java:193)
at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.io.connection.DS2LoggerConnection.sendAddressReads(DS2LoggerConnection.java:120)
at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.learning.DS2LearningTableValues.doInBackground(DS2LearningTableValues.java:167)
at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.learning.DS2LearningTableValues.doInBackground(DS2LearningTableValues.java:70)
at javax.swing.SwingWorker$1.call(Unknown Source)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.SwingWorker.run(Unknown Source)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
48956 INFO [Thread-1067] - RegOpenKeyEx error [2]
, trying serial connection...
49033 INFO [Thread-1067] - Connected to: COM1
49034 INFO [Thread-1067] - Serial connection initialised: SerialConnectionProperties[baudRate=9600, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=2, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=55]
51142 INFO [Thread-1067] - ECU ID = 7526753
51268 INFO [Thread-1067] - Connection closed.
51270 INFO [Thread-1067] - RegOpenKeyEx error [2]
, trying serial connection...
51334 INFO [Thread-1067] - Connected to: COM1
51335 INFO [Thread-1067] - Serial connection initialised: SerialConnectionProperties[baudRate=9600, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=2, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=55]
51336 INFO [Thread-1067] - TX Manager Started.
102198 INFO [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Loading logger config for new ECU ID: 7526753, loaded protocol DS2: 119 parameters, 0 switches from def version 326.loaded protocol DS2: 119 parameters, 0 switches from def version 326.
677736 INFO [Thread-1067] - Connection closed.
677737 INFO [Thread-1067] - TX Manager Stopped.
680054 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - RegOpenKeyEx error [2]
, trying serial connection...
680115 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Connected to: COM1
680116 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Serial connection initialised: SerialConnectionProperties[baudRate=9600, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=2, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=55]
680117 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Retrieving vehicle info & A/F values...
680482 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Current vehicle info & A/F values retrieved.
680577 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Retrieving Knock Load ranges...
682710 INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Connection closed.
682710 ERROR [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-2] - Retrieving Knock Load ranges... Error retrieving values
com.romraider.logger.ecu.exception.InvalidResponseException: Invalid ecu id. Expected: 12. Actual: 00.

Have you sorted it out mate ? I have same issue here, can't read adaptation table values at all. everything else seems to work just fine. I downloaded those two zip files and updated my files definition but no luck anyway. I've got CA software version. Any idea lads ?

dschultz · **Posted:** Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:55 pm

You could try this: viewtopic.php?p=146779#p146779

mateomix99 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:48 pm **Posts:** 12

dschultz wrote:

You could try this: http://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopi ... 79#p146779

Hi, i ve got 7526753, 0110CA, Car: 2000 EUR/USDM BMW M52TU Partial 5WK90329 MT/AT

and also gor similar problem as above.

Im using latest MS42 ECU Definitions v0.42 and logger_METRIC_EN_v362 but also tried ECU v0.41 and UnOfficial_logger_METRIC_EN_v326-3 from user 323toslow.
Nothing seems to work and i cant figure it out. I read this and other topic about a Learning Table Values, and also tried post that you mentioned: viewtopic.php?p=146779#p146779
but that is also not working

and this is what i get:

Code:

 AsyncDataUpdater stopped.
16355 DEBUG [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - LoggerControllerImpl - QueryManager Thread-6 state: TERMINATED
16356 INFO  [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - No J2534 libraries found that support protocol ISO9141, trying serial connection...
16387 INFO  [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Connected to: COM1
16387 INFO  [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Serial connection initialised: SerialConnectionProperties[baudRate=9600, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=2, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=55]
16387 INFO  [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Retrieving vehicle info & A/F values ...
16387 DEBUG [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Mode:STATE_0 ECU Group request  ---> 12050B918D
18402 DEBUG [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Serial Bad Read response (read timeout): 12050B918D1204B0A6
18402 TRACE [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - ECU Read Raw Response <--- 00000000000000000000000000000000000000
18403 DEBUG [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Mode:STATE_0 ECU Response <--- 0000000000000000000000000000
18560 INFO  [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Connection closed.
18560 DEBUG [Thread-11] - QueryManager started.
18560 INFO  [Thread-11] - No J2534 libraries found that support protocol ISO9141, trying serial connection...
18560 ERROR [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-1] - Retrieving vehicle info & A/F values ... Error retrieving values
com.romraider.logger.ecu.exception.InvalidResponseException: Invalid ecu id. Expected: 12. Actual: 00.
   at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.assertEquals(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.validateResponse(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2ResponseProcessor.extractResponseData(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.io.protocol.ds2.iso9141.DS2LoggerProtocol.processReadAddressResponse(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.io.connection.DS2LoggerConnection.sendAddressReads(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.learning.DS2LearningTableValues.doInBackground(Unknown Source)
   at com.romraider.logger.ecu.comms.learning.DS2LearningTableValues.doInBackground(Unknown Source)
   at javax.swing.SwingWorker$1.call(Unknown Source)
   at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
   at javax.swing.SwingWorker.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Could you help me?

dschultz · **Posted:** Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:19 am

The ECU is responding with 1204B0A6, the B0 part a is negative acknowledgement and the Logger doesn't get the data it expects from the query for the adaption status. This is well before the query for table values which others had problems with.
I can't tell you why the ECU doesn't support this query.

mateomix99 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:48 pm **Posts:** 12

dschultz wrote:

The ECU is responding with 1204B0A6, the B0 part a is negative acknowledgement and the Logger doesn't get the data it expects from the query for the adaption status. This is well before the query for table values which others had problems with.
I can't tell you why the ECU doesn't support this query.

do you know what address the querry 12050B918D refers to?
Can it be related to the fact that I do not have lambda sensors?
Maybe something is declared wrong in my ECU defs

I have no problem with using logger and loggin some data to file, but i cant view LTV

Edit:
I found this thread: https://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17152
Could you please take a look?
You said that its E19 - "** Lambda Additive Adaptation - Bank 1" so i think it is related to that i dont have lambdas. What could i do? Can I turn off this parameter or how to get around it?

Edit2:
I connected my 2nd ECU (0110C6, 7500255) and it showed Adaption Table Values without any problem. I dont know what is going on - why CA version dont work but C6 works well? in logger definition adresses for E19 are the same

Also I did some tests on C6 and its opening LTV but there are everywhere 0's in knock adaptation even if I changed ignition timings +3 degress there are everywhere 0.So i think somethings wrong..

dschultz · **Posted:** Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 am

I suppose it is possible that with no sensors the adaption read command is also disabled.

Do your knock sensors work when you log them?

mateomix99 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:48 pm **Posts:** 12

dschultz wrote:

I suppose it is possible that with no sensors the adaption read command is also disabled.

Do your knock sensors work when you log them?

yeah, but i have sensors disabled in both - C6 and CA and only C6 is working, CA cant connect to LTV.

When i log knock sensors i get values from 0.19V - 1.5V so i think they works fine

EDIT:
I found something intresting. As I said - both C6 and CA ecus are set to lambda configuration "1" and i dont have any lambdas in my car so ecus should not display any errors and disable lambdas, but:

C6 is normal CAT soft (7500255) downloaded from the internet and when i use this ecu in my car i get some errors in INPA (25 and 55 (Ansteuerung Lambdasondenheizung vor KAT Bank 1 and 2)) and some calues in INPA about lambdas, that CA dont have
C6 is also working with Learning Table Values LTV without any errors (but as I said all knock adaptations are 0's)

CA is CAT-preparation soft (7526753) and it is not connecting to LTV and gives errors as I before mentioned, but also there is no errors in INPA and some status bars in INPA are not showing.

I dont know excactly what is it caused by and how to get CA working with LTV :/
Could I somehow disable lambdas in LTV? Or do something go get CA working?

dschultz · **Posted:** Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:09 am

Do all iterations of 7526753 have no lambda sensors?

Ercan1988 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:31 am **Posts:** 11

Hallo jongens,

Met alle respect, ik kan de tabellen niet zien. Alles werkt prima ik kan alle waardes zien behalve de knock tabellen

Wat doe ik fout?

Ik heb de hierboven genoemde bestanden gedownlaod maar ik kom niet verder als alleen de parameters zien

Meguinness · **Joined:** Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1

Hi guys,the latest version of ROMRIDER will not load the ECU and logger definitions files posted on the original post.
Can someone explain which version of ROMRIDER works with those files and how to show the Knock Adaption Learned Values Table please. Which ticks to select on the logger?
Thank you

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