MS45 ECU definitions

pazi88 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:51 am

Please modify the definitions in GitHub, test that those actually work and submit PR to include additions for others too.

zephurah · **Joined:** Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:18 pm **Posts:** 7

What are the disadvantages to downgrading an ECU to 4570LG23 via WINKFP, then having access to all of the parameters? Would this work? I'm pretty sure I can get ahold of the LG23 .0da file associated with it.

tjwasiak · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:34 pm

You need both 0pa (program code) and 0da (data) not to brick the ECU.
I am not sure if those ECUs could be downgraded using WinKFP. Of course updating works like a charm as I updated "a few" of them - some using WinKFP and other using ISTA-P.
Why not prepare definition for the file you are currently running and share it with community?

zephurah · **Joined:** Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:18 pm **Posts:** 7

I am still working on figuring out if the definitions I have found for various software versions are actually correct, I have had some success with some of the tunes, I managed to find the cat switches on LJ10 and they seemed to work fine, but on another ECU SW version LL00 the same exact tune disassembled the same way was unsuccessful.

So far I have o2 tunes found for LJ10, LM00, and LL00, as well as some other random switches I have identified.

Man I wish there was an a2l for these.

Also I believe I posted this before, but if someone has access to an M56 car, the .a2l we have is for that car.

akaki · **Joined:** Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:35 pm **Posts:** 2

GEP wrote:

4570LO00

TARGET COOLANT TEMPERATURE WITHOUT AC
0x4A7DC

TARGET COOLANT TEMP WITH AC
0x4A824

TIME DELAY TO TERMINATE SA FUNCTION
0x470C0

IP_TQI_REF__N__MAF
0x52690

Do you know address of basic ignition timings 98 and 91?

akaki · **Joined:** Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:35 pm **Posts:** 2

zephurah wrote:

Hey guys, i'm working on 4570LJ10, and have found the Ignition angle maps for RON 98 and 91, pretty simple. However i'm trying to identify the post cat o2 diagnosis config switch. Does anyone have a damos or a2l file for this version? Or any pointers of how to trace config switches in IDA Pro, any and all help would be appreciated.

Do you know address of basic ignition timings 98 and 91? 4570LO00

ronin2 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:27 pm **Posts:** 1

Hi anybody know address for isn i need change. Thanks.

blacknipel · **Joined:** Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:12 pm **Posts:** 24

ms45.0 4560BN00 Version for most Euro E60

0x4152A exhaust configuration
0x418D4 speed limiter (MT?)
0x418D5 speed limiter (AT?)
0x46ADC Full Load LAMBDA
0x4E438 PT LAMBDA SETPOINT bank1
0x4E4B8 PT LAMBDA SETPOINT bank2
0x405FDC RPM LIMITER AMT
0x45FEE RPM LIMITER AT
0x46000 RPM LIM INCREASED AMT
0x46012 RPM LIM INCREASED AT
0x46024 RPM LIM INCREASED MT
0x46036 RPM LIMITER MT
0x41D0E EXH VANOS FL COLD
0x41D42 INT VANOS FL COLD
0x41D76 EXH VANOS FL WARM
0x41DAA INT VANOS FL WARM
0x4A454 EXH VANOS PT COLD
0x4A514 INT VANOS PT COLD
0x4A5D4 EXH VANOS PT WARM
0x4A694 INT VANOS PT WARM
0x4A964 IGN BASIC VVT PASSIVE
0x4AAA4 IGN BASE VO MAX
0x4ABE4 IGN BASE VO MIN
0x4A364 COOLANT AC OFF
0x4A3AC COOLANT AC ON
0x449F8 CAT deactivation

ba114 · **Joined:** Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:36 am **Posts:** 980

You need to contribute to github. Define the tables and their axis correctly, test and then submit a pull request.

Do not just dump map addresses in this thread.

sneake36 · **Joined:** Fri May 17, 2019 6:58 am **Posts:** 4

I have 2 Fullreads from mine and a buddys car.
1 is a 330i ZHP Automatic USA MODEL 2006
2 is a 325i non Manual USA MODEL 2006

Submitting them for analysis if you guys want.

I really wanna know how to get the overun or fuel maps. Just wanna make my car and a friends pop.

I hope they help thedevelopment!

Lambda1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:46 pm **Posts:** 534

Who is working on 4560B00 and maybe find more stuff like intake model... for boosting application?
Also why fueling is shown in lambda :?:

MS45.0 only narrowband no wideband like MS45.1 . This will confuse people and misslead. Or is it "fake lambda" values by calculating ?

notoriousg · **Joined:** Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:57 pm **Posts:** 5

Hello,
sorry to bring up this old thread, but i was looking through the definitions for MS45 and saw that on the lambda target bank 1 and bank 2 maps the map values in romraider are *BTDC,
shouldn't they be lambda like on the full load map? Also so increasing fuel is done by lambda target, for example changing a value from 1.0 to 0.95 will request more fuel right?

MIKUr1 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:02 pm **Posts:** 18

How can I add to definitions adresses that blacknipel posted in 2017?

nemus05 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:42 pm **Posts:** 3

pazi88 wrote:

Please modify the definitions in GitHub, test that those actually work and submit PR to include additions for others too.

One question, when I load my bin file, with the definitions of MS45 I get that it is bmw x3, but my car is a z4 e85 3.0i. my DME is MS45.0.

Are they valid for that DME?
Is an e83 the same as e85?
The definition files are for ms45.0 and for ms45.1, are they the same, is it the same file?

Thanks

han11211 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:52 pm **Posts:** 7

my ecu is m45.0 bmw e60 i used the ms45.0 definition file but i have only three parameter SW 4560BN00 no torque parameter or limiters MAF nothing what i am doing wrong

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