RR Logger Drop Innovate MTX Data Stream

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

With a fresh boot of my pc, I can get a good connection to my Innovate MTX data stream ( mtx-l wideband, mtx-d oil temp/pressure). A short time later Logger either drops those values to zero or they freeze at some previous value. Logworks has no issues connecting and reading data reliably. Close Logger after a freeze and Logworks will pick up and start working without issue. The issue seems to be isolated to the MTX stuff as my ECU data is fine.

Diagnostic steps taken:
1: switch from an outdated prolific Serial to USB to a new FTDI chip.
2: Removed daisy chain cable and connected directly to the wideband.
3: Reinstalled RomRaider and redownloaded all definitions.

Anyone have any ideas? Or have the same issue and were able to resolve it?

dschultz · **Posted:** Wed May 12, 2021 12:28 am

Can you submit your rr_system.log?
https://www.romraider.com/index.php/Rom ... HowToDebug

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

I believe the one titled rr_system_1.log should be the correct one. I deleted the old file before I started the software this morning but found 2 files available when I wrote this post so I included both. One update on steps I have taken. If I use the Innovate Wideband AFR plugin I get good data and it seems reliable. So this is a fix for now but does not explain why the MTX one doesn't work.

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

Can you submit your rr_system.log?
https://www.romraider.com/index.php/Rom ... HowToDebug

dschultz did you have a chance to look at that log?

dschultz · **Posted:** Fri May 21, 2021 12:22 am

The log shows a serial error every 1 second. Do you have more that one plugin trying to use the serial port?

Code:

INFO  [main] - Innovate MTS: current port [2]: COM8
INFO  [main] - Innovate MTS: found 1 inputs.
DEBUG [main] - Innovate MTS: InputNo: 00, InputName: MTX_L__O2, InputType: 1, DeviceName: MTX-L+, DeviceType: 6, DeviceChannel: 0, Units: AFR, Multiplier: 14.700000, MinValue: 7.350000, MaxValue: 22.388100
INFO  [main] - Plugin loaded: Innovate MTS v0.06
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate Wideband AFR]: 1
INFO  [Thread-8] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connecting...
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate MTS]: 1
INFO  [Thread-9] - Innovate MTS: connecting...
DEBUG [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Adding logger:   [X_Innovate_MTS_MTX-L+_CH0] Innovate MTS MTX-L+ CH0
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate Wideband AFR: disconnecting port COM8
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate Wideband AFR: disconnected
INFO  [Thread-8] - Connected to: COM8
INFO  [Thread-8] - Serial connection initialised: InnovateConnectionProperties[baudRate=19200, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=0, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=200]
INFO  [Thread-8] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connected.
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate MTS: disconnecting port 2
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate MTS: disconnected
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate Wideband AFR]: 1
INFO  [Thread-14] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connecting...
DEBUG [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Adding logger:   [X_Innovate_Wideband_AFR] Innovate Wideband AFR

This keeps repeating ...

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

Not that I know of unless the Innovate plugin was trying to connect also. I removed all the plugins except for the MTX one and had the same issue. I can do that again and take another log tomorrow.

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

The log shows a serial error every 1 second. Do you have more that one plugin trying to use the serial port?

Code:

INFO  [main] - Innovate MTS: current port [2]: COM8
INFO  [main] - Innovate MTS: found 1 inputs.
DEBUG [main] - Innovate MTS: InputNo: 00, InputName: MTX_L__O2, InputType: 1, DeviceName: MTX-L+, DeviceType: 6, DeviceChannel: 0, Units: AFR, Multiplier: 14.700000, MinValue: 7.350000, MaxValue: 22.388100
INFO  [main] - Plugin loaded: Innovate MTS v0.06
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate Wideband AFR]: 1
INFO  [Thread-8] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connecting...
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate MTS]: 1
INFO  [Thread-9] - Innovate MTS: connecting...
DEBUG [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Adding logger:   [X_Innovate_MTS_MTX-L+_CH0] Innovate MTS MTX-L+ CH0
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate Wideband AFR: disconnecting port COM8
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate Wideband AFR: disconnected
INFO  [Thread-8] - Connected to: COM8
INFO  [Thread-8] - Serial connection initialised: InnovateConnectionProperties[baudRate=19200, dataBits=8, stopBits=1, parity=0, connectTimeout=2000, sendTimeout=200]
INFO  [Thread-8] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connected.
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate MTS: disconnecting port 2
INFO  [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Innovate MTS: disconnected
TRACE [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Connect count [Innovate Wideband AFR]: 1
INFO  [Thread-14] - Innovate Wideband AFR: connecting...
DEBUG [AWT-EventQueue-0] - Adding logger:   [X_Innovate_Wideband_AFR] Innovate Wideband AFR

This keeps repeating ...

Have a look at these. I cleared the log and ran Logger on my way to work. The MTX data froze about 25 minutes into my drive.

dschultz · **Posted:** Sat May 22, 2021 1:04 pm

I can't explain it, there are just no more entries in the log after this one:

Code:

1453869 TRACE [Thread-15] - Innovate MTS input: 0, type: 1, function: 0, sample: 505, result: 14.773499

The error could be outside of the RR Logger, possibly in the Innovate library that reports the measurements to the logger.
What datasource.pollmode are you set for in the "C:\...\RomRaider\plugins\lm2_mts.plugin" file?

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

I can't explain it, there are just no more entries in the log after this one:

Code:

1453869 TRACE [Thread-15] - Innovate MTS input: 0, type: 1, function: 0, sample: 505, result: 14.773499

The error could be outside of the RR Logger, possibly in the Innovate library that reports the measurements to the logger.
What datasource.pollmode are you set for in the "C:\...\RomRaider\plugins\lm2_mts.plugin" file?

Assuming I am looking at the correct thing. This is what I see when I open the plugin in Notepad++.

datasource.class=com.romraider.logger.external.innovate.lm2.mts.plugin.Lm2MtsDataSource
datasource.pollmode=true

A side note, everything seems to be reliable through the Innovate software. Also the other Innovate WB plugin doesn't drop out using the same cable and sensor.

dschultz · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2021 12:20 am

I suggest you use whichever plugin works best for you.
It's hard to fix a problem when there's no indication of where the problem is.

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

I suggest you use whichever plugin works best for you.
It's hard to fix a problem when there's no indication of where the problem is.

That is unfortunate but fair. Anything else you can think of to try? I was hoping to get this sorted so I had the opportunity to log other sensors.

dschultz · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2021 11:24 pm

Make sure your WBO2 ground is to the engine and not the chassis, make sure the laptop uses the same ground if powered from the car.

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

Make sure your WBO2 ground is to the engine and not the chassis, make sure the laptop uses the same ground if powered from the car.

Interesting okay. The computer is on battery power and the gauge is grounded by the dash fuse pannel. I guess I could run a wire back out to the block from the dash and try that.

jclar154 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:09 pm **Posts:** 14

dschultz wrote:

Make sure your WBO2 ground is to the engine and not the chassis, make sure the laptop uses the same ground if powered from the car.

Its been a long time. But I finally got around to moving the ground. Also powering both gauges through a relay off the battery.

Same result where everything was happy for a few miles then the data stream died.

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