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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:30 am 
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It means that your MAF < 50 g/s is almost dead on, but your MAF > 75 g/s is off.

The in between is almost impossible to scale with WOT. You'll need to do a high partial throttle log for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:55 am 
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In Airboys spreadsheet it's showing AFR errors at 2.4V of -10% (in pic I posted) and in my ROM 2.4V is around 27g/s. Why doesn't learning view show -10% A/F Learning #1 C (7.5-37.5) instead of -0.98%?

I'll get some CL scaling over the next few days and try and get 38+ sorted, but I'm still a little baffled why learningview doesn't show -10% when Airboy's does?

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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:03 am 
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2.4V is right where you stepped on the gas pedal so there will be tip-in enrichment. As for the rest of the range, what does your MAF table look like relative to the stock table?


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:16 am 
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Airboy wrote:
2.4V is right where you stepped on the gas pedal so there will be tip-in enrichment. As for the rest of the range, what does your MAF table look like relative to the stock table?

Ah ok, so the initial rich spike is from tip-in, but from 2.6v on the MAF scale is out? Starting to make sense now, and since 2.6v = approx 41g/s it won't show in Learningview, is that correct?

Here is my current MAF scaling - sorry for the akwardness of posting it:
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0.94   1.26
0.98   1.47
1.02   1.61
1.05   1.93
1.09   2.24
1.13   2.37
1.17   2.73
1.21   2.95
1.25   3.41
1.29   3.76
1.33   4.07
1.37   4.27
1.41   4.67
1.48   6.05
1.56   6.72
1.64   7.58
1.70   8.66
1.75   9.81
1.84   10.92
1.95   13.78
2.03   15.47
2.11   17.42
2.19   19.81
2.27   22.19
2.34   24.09
2.42   27.86
2.54   30.88
2.66   41.16
2.77   47.31
2.89   53.13
3.01   62.34
3.13   68.24
3.24   76.23
3.36   86.26
3.48   98.43
3.59   109.70
3.71   120.20
3.83   134.25
3.95   147.33
4.06   162.08
4.18   177.86
4.30   194.75
4.41   212.77
4.49   225.34
4.57   238.53
4.61   245.38
4.65   252.37
4.90   300.00

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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:40 pm 
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I thought you had the MAF and fueling sorted out a while back? What has changed since?


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:14 am 
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Here my results for a STI X EDM of 2008 collector APS and exhaust NVIDIA,
http://www.coplan.fr/daniel/cartos/Spreadsheet/Closed_Loop_Fueling_STI_X_EDM.zip

I have a problem. It is necessary to add 0.73 ms of latency :shock: in table "injector latency"? is big,no?


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:01 pm 
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No.

You logged IPW and not IPW direct. IPW includes latency.


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:46 pm 
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For STI X, there is not option IPW direct :cry:

IPW direct it's equal IPW - IPW Latency :?:

And the size injector it's ok or not :?:

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:29 pm 
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Can you post your rom or send me a link to where the stock rom is located?

Yes, IPW direct = IPW - latency. I believe the ecu calculates IPW direct and then adds latency to get the IPW that it applies to the injector solenoid.


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:09 pm 
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Here my rom
http://www.coplan.fr/daniel/cartos/AZ1G202G.zip
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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:37 am 
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it's better, I think now :D
Closed_Loop_Fueling_STI_X_EDM_V2.zip


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:48 am 
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Airboy wrote:
I thought you had the MAF and fueling sorted out a while back? What has changed since?

Nothing on the intake side had changed - however I had to change back to 98RON fuel from E10 as the fuel station stopped selling it so and that is when things went a little crazy.

When the MAF was scaled originally, the car was running E10, which I think may have skewed the MAF scaling results somewhat. I prolly should have dropped my injector scaling down a fraction to compensate for the E10 (like the E85 guys do) and then scaled my MAF - but too late now.

I have left the injector scaling/latency alone and set as they should be for my DW750s and have just worked on MAF scaling now to get it sorted. My closed loop scaling seems spot on now (generally less than +/- 1%) so hopefully it is just open loop scaling as suggest that is causing the problem.

My car is in at the workshop at the moment (trying to bug track a cylinder 1 misfire) and so I'll have to wait until that is sorted until I start OL MAF scaling.

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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:18 am 
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legaulois wrote:
it's better, I think now :D
Closed_Loop_Fueling_STI_X_EDM_V2.zip


Sorry. I forgot that IPW direct was changed to IPW (4-byte). It looks like you found it correctly.

Did you modify your ecu defs to support your rom?


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:24 am 
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mickeyd2005 wrote:
Did you modify your ecu defs to support your rom?

Yes


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 Post subject: Re: Spreadsheet to scale Closed Loop MAF Table and Injectors
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:16 pm 
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he would also have to modify the logger defs in order to access extended parameters since his ECU isn't currently supported.


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