UTILITY: Timing Editor (v12, 2009/12/29)

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

I like the hotkey idea a lot. It'll happen.

I think I can fix the column selection, but I haven't actually looked into it yet.

Slowbaru · **Posted:** Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:44 am

i wish i could get this to work. i'm able to paste in my base timing, and i can paste in my timing advance, but on my 05 wrx map the number of columns and rows are different for these two tables. so when i go to total timing, i get error messages and it shuts down.

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

It works with different numbers of columns, but I haven't seen a tune that uses different numbers of rows.

Can you post your map? If you give me something to test with, I can probably make it work.

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

Merry Christmas!

I have just uploaded version 12 of the timing editor. Pressing + or - will increment or decrement the selected cells by 0.35.

dschultz · **Posted:** Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:34 pm

Thanks!
Now my math skills are going to fall off again. I was getting really good at +/- 0.35 and 1.05 :wink:

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

dschultz wrote:

Thanks!
Now my math skills are going to fall off again. I was getting really good at +/- 0.35 and 1.05 :wink:

You'll just need to look at other peoples' Learning View snapshots more often to stay sharp on that.

Josh Long · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:34 pm

MConte05 wrote:

From what I understand, is that the ECU assumes all load values for the same RPM below that minimum load (usually 0.70 for me) it just uses whatever is in that 0.70 load column. The stock 02 ECU has a TA table where the lowest load column is pretty much zero, it doesn't start adding TA until around 1.0 load. However a lot of people ditch the funky TA map and just put a constant value in all the load/RPM cells, such as the TA advance map in mine, which is all 10.20. So basically now anytime the IAM is all happy at 16, it's adding 10.20 degrees throughout the entire RPM/Load range.

I may have details incorrect (still new to the tuning game) but the total timing in my datalogs seem to correspond with the fact that 10.20 TA is added all over the load/rpm range, so I try to fill up the blank 3 columns with 10.20 to ensure that I can make a nice smooth base map by changing the total timing map.

Be careful with this assumption. You will need to know the feedback correction min. load value. Stock 02 wrx is .6 Without paying attention to this you can easily make some funky shpaed timing curves.

Josh

unknown001 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:46 am **Posts:** 36

Your utility also works wonders on smoothing out the ol fueling map as well! Thanks!

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

You're welcome!

I've used it for that as well. It was an undocumented feature until just now.

Slowbaru · **Posted:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:18 pm

i'm getting this error message right after i paste my advance table

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
File name: 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
at NSFW.TimingEditor.TimingForm.GetSmoothInfo(Double min, Double max)
at NSFW.TimingEditor.TimingForm.DrawSideViews(Int32 activeColumn, Int32 activeRow)
at NSFW.TimingEditor.TimingForm.dataGrid_CellMouseEnter(Object sender, DataGridViewCellEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnCellMouseEnter(DataGridViewCellEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.UpdateMouseEnteredCell(HitTestInfo hti, MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnMouseMove(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseMove(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.
To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.
Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.
To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
TimingEditor
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/mgenua/Desktop/TimingEditor.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

any ideas on what i need to do?

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

Quote:

System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

Looks like you don't have .Net 3.5 installed.

You can get it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

poohbear · **Joined:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:31 am **Posts:** 191

"* Select "initial base timing"
* Paste your base timing table from RomRaider
* Select "initial advance timing"
* Paste your timing advance table from RomRaider
* Select "initial total timing"
* Move the mouse over the cells in the table, and watch.
* Select the "Modified Xxxx" stuff, and notice the help text at the bottom of the window.
* Make changes. Note that the "total timing" views can be inaccurate if your base and advance tables have different row and column headers.
* Copy the modified base/advance tables and paste them into RomRaider.
* Double-check everything in RomRaider.
* Flash, log, repeat."

Trying to follow along with these steps using a 2009 wrx map.. Tables seem to be labeled differently... OR am I just crazy?

IE initial base timing... and all i see is initial base timing cruise and non cruise...

I dont even see anything on the total timing or timing advance...

nsfw · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 am **Posts:** 2565

I'm not familiar with the 09 timing, but my guess is that you'd want to mostly focus on the 'non cruise' base timing and advance timing tables.

goixiz · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:12 am

Thank you for this great utility

Would it be too much to ask - if instead of a straight line (start and end point constraint) you allow for a polynomial equation instead (as an option)

poohbear · **Joined:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:31 am **Posts:** 191

NSFW wrote:

I'm not familiar with the 09 timing, but my guess is that you'd want to mostly focus on the 'non cruise' base timing and advance timing tables.

kind of what I was thinking... As non cruise will be what we want to see the change in anyhow... but I dont see anything that could even be close to related to advance timing at all... I dont want to start pluggin in the wrong tables and end up with some bad situations...

RomRaider

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