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Patrick P931
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Post subject: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, st 1, 2 & 3, continuously updated! Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:29 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:00 am Posts: 1305 Location: Stockholm, Sweden. Sea level.
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2014-05-13 I took a few moments and decided to redo my stage 1 rom a little. The same rom can be used as "stage 2" as well, but you may have to massage the wgdc and some other maps for it to run perfectly.  This revised rom has more shared from my tuning experience. The total timing on this "ultimate" rom is high high high compared to what I have shared previously. Log knock, but I can run even more advance than this on my present set up... that breathes a little better.  My old stage 1 roms are deleted from this first post, with more than 700 downloads in total I hope people are happy. It would be great if I could get someone running a TD04 EJ255 FXT/WRX to test the Ultimate rom. This rom should be a significant bump in power from what I have earlier shared.  Patrick Original seventh post wrote: 2014-02-07 Exactly 1 year since my last update of this first post.  I have gone through a huge number of different stage 3 roms and a ton of revisions of each one, but for the past half a year I have stayed with one single base that I think has given me the safest most powerful rom I dare to drive. As there are maps on this rom that are not open source I can not share it, but part of the recipe is no avcs at higher rpm, lots of ignition advance, and as much high rpm boost as the poor VF43 can deliver.  So after more than 2 years at stage 3, it is time to move to stage 3+. For me this includes bigger turbo and injectors. After long research and option weighing I settled on a Kinugawa TD06SL2/60-1 with the upgraded 9 blade STS turbine and billet compressor wheel. Injectors are ID1000, well tested and supposedly the best. I will continue to give support and feedback on my shared roms. Happy tuning! Cheers, Patrick Original sixth post wrote: 2013-02-07 As I was helping another mate here I saw that there are a couple of improvements that can be done to the stage 1 rom and I want to share these with the open source community. So please find r3 of the high boost stage 1 rom attached at the end of this post. The changes are not really that big but do make sense when I look at them with the experience that I have today. I have been tuning (mostly my own car but now also a couple of mates cars) for close to a year and a half now and experience should not be underestimated.  It is also rather straight forward to create a "stage 2" rom from this stage 1 rom, that development is underway in the wrx section right now. If you are looking for a Forester specific stage 2 rom, you should look at the development taking place there. My own car probably belongs to the worlds most logged, analysed, tested, and flashed FXT's. It also runs quite well but I am already dreaming of a larger turbo (and built bottom end).  Cheers, Patrick Original fifth post wrote: 2012-07-21, Stockholm, Sweden. Summer time. Temps 20-30 C and a little more humid (but probably considered very dry compared to the rest of the world), and therefore my last roms are "safer" when it comes to ignition timing advance. Still 98 RON and sea level. The stage 3 rom I am sharing now can be considered safe, I log knock like crazy and this rom has no knock count above idle. It runs really well but I decided to chase some more torque and power now for a while.  See r28 attached both at the end of this post and on page 17. The new rom development starts on page 17 but as it's not tested at all yet I don't dare to share it.  Patrick Original fourth post wrote: 2012-05-02, Stockholm Sweden, 98 RON, sea level, coldish and dryish. As a thank you to all that share here I did a revision to the stage 1 rom. Test it and see.  The only tables that probably will need fixing are the waste gate duty cycles, if you test this rom and don't reach target boost I can help you.  Regarding my present rom, it is on page 14.  Cheers, Patrick Original third post wrote: 2012-03-14, Stockholm Sweden, 98 RON, sea level, cold and dry. I have decided to update this first post with my last revisions of my various stage 3 tunes that I have tested. The first is an EDM 2007 STI based rom, it is almost entirely my own based on what I think a good EDM based STI tune should be. DBW is gabedudes. I searched everywhere for open source EDM STI tunes but none were found. It is in my opinion a racing feeling rom. The boost is stock STI (peaks at about 1 bar, 14.5 psi, and stays there) and load is therefore quite a bit lower than in the rom below but the mass air flow is about the same on top. Tons of ignition advance though so be careful.  A typical log would peak at about 3.2 g/rev and 285 g/s if I recall correctly, it has been a while since I logged it. The second is a rom that once had a start with d0nets wrx rom that can be found in that section. This revision only keeps the avcs table from that rom. This last revision has some further and not thoroughly tested revisions but as I saw a little bit of knock at high rpm and high load in todays log (I ran this for 3 days) I decided to try something completely different. This last revision also has Throttlehappys idea of DBW "on the bottom" and gabedudes DBW "on top". I am actually really surprised at the combination and I will continue using and developing it in the future. This rom will peak at close to 1.4 bar (20 psi) and tapers to about 1.1 bar (16 psi) on top. Load is significantly higher with peak of around 3.6 g/rev and I have consistently logged flow of over 290 g/s (with a one time high of 297 g/s but often 295). And then stage 3 rom 3 (the charm?), back to the 2007 EDM STI influence. Leaner, meaner, boostier and hopefully really powerful. Check page 11 in this thread for start of comments and revisions. Cheers, Patrick original second post wrote: Hi! 2012-01-10, Sweden, 98 RON (should be more or less equal to US 93), sea level, cold and dry.  To skip having to read (although it is not a bad idea to learn from reading) please see my final, although untested, stage 1 map. It peaks at about 1 bar (14.5 psi) and then I more or less let the stock TD04 turbo push as much air as it can which translates to about 0.7 bar (10 psi) on top.  Everything from air filter to exhaust is 100% stock. A lot of the maps are changed from stock and it pulls nicely and strongly, a transformed engine! The ROM is attached here at the end of this post, it is revision 11. Then I did what Subaru should have offered us here in Europe: a Forester STI! In this case the end product will be a "Stage 2 STI map", or "Stage 3 FXT map" and includes several hardware mods. That development is on page 7 of this thread at the moment. If you are running a stock FXT you should not try to flash that file although physically it fits. Please remember that I take no responsibility and log, log, log. Cheers, Patrick original first post wrote: Hi! Instead of continuing in the USDM thread I decided to start my own thread. I drive a 2007 FXT EDM 4EAT, a nice car that is so much nicer with just the simple remap of the DBW.  I am located in Sweden, close to sea level and I use 98 RON. I also want to say that I am so happy about this open source tuning, it makes my life so much more fun! I am almost done collecting all the parts I need for me planned "STI stage 2" upgrade consisting of a VF43, STI TMIC, Cobb TBE and Walbro 255 pump. I will need quite a bit of help there with a base map that I can use to start the car and safely drive it to the pro tuner that I intend to use for that. Should I try and use an STI base map or try and find a WRX map that may work? Any input is greatly appreciated!  In the meantime I have decided to try and do my own "stage 1" FXT. In the other USDM thread I have attached my original file just in case anyone is interested and wants to compare an EDM file. I have an A8DK100P. In this post I have attached the latest version (r5) of my tuned file, it is largely based on gabedudes r30 for a wrx but modfied using a number of sources and my own guesswork.  I am chasing my target boost of 1 bar (14.5 psi) but having a little trouble reaching it, that is why my wg tables look the way they do at the moment, this is r5 for me.  In the Android community I give small donations (not big but enough to buy a beer or a good coffee) to the developers of good roms, do you do that here too? Thank you all that have shared their work! I have taken several logs, but none yet with this r5. I will try and take a log and post this asap if I reach target boost or close to it.  No knock (touch wood) yet.  Otherwise perhaps someone can guide me on how I can reach my target boost? Cheers, Patrick
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:36 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:00 am Posts: 1305 Location: Stockholm, Sweden. Sea level.
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Ok, target boost reached.  Attached are the log and learning view from before starting (after new flash) and the other learning view is after 4-5 runs on the way home from work. More testing tomorrow.  Patrick p.s. how come the learningview saves screenshots at 605 pix but we can only attach max 600 pix? Going to search for the reason now. 
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_________________ I love the sound of that tune!
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:38 am |
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Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:27 pm Posts: 2032 Location: Northern NSW
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In the revised dbw hex I sent you, look in the Knock Correction folder, open the Fine Learning Knock (RPM) table and you should see the values for rpm that affect the learning view rpm range  Notice how my map does not have 11,000 or 12,000rpm? Copy my values into your map, it helps fine tune the scale of learning view Also, set the initail IAM in the same folder to 1.000 instead of 0.500
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throttlehappy
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:38 am |
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everything else looks good though
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:16 am |
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Hi! Hehe, thank you for that excellent help!  Thank you so much for your feedback! I am checking your rom again now. There are so many things changed in your rom that it almost scares me.  I have now, in my r6, changed the entire knock folder to yours. Thank you and I hope it doesn't knock.  You are also running what I think higher boost than I dare to at the moment, and your cam setting is also way more aggressive... Hehe, if I wasn't such a chicken I would try your map to 100%.  Time for that lunch hour test run.  Patrick
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:55 pm |
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:05 pm |
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I was on my mobile phone to check your Learning Views and just looked at your log files on my computer. Your log data appears to be wrong? Are you using the MicroSD card with a logcfg.txt file for logging?
They should look more like the attached file with clear data streams in each column..
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:48 am |
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Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:00 am Posts: 1305 Location: Stockholm, Sweden. Sea level.
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Hi! Thank you again!  I am logging select parameters using RomRaider, but I did get the sd card (and all the rest they had, just in case) with the OP2 from Tactrix. Now I just have to find out how to log using that method. Already started searching here but I am also on my phone, so it might take a while. Cheers, Patrick
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dschultz
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:48 pm |
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Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:49 am Posts: 7323 Location: Canada eh!
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Use this tool to build a basic config: http://www.verticaltier.net/configtool/logger.phpThen tweak it from there. Note that you will need to use RomRaider Logger to figure out which standard parameters your ECU supports when connected to the ECU, then use the S#'s (hover over descriptions with mouse) to select the appropriate items in the config sites. The Extended parameters (E#'s) are listed for your particular ECU ID. Also in the OpenECU install directory you'll find sample configs to work with.
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:40 pm |
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Thank you so much for more support! I am surfing on the phone but I hope to get some time in front of a pc tomorrow to set up the OP logger. I have also edited an r7 with an even more "strange" wg table, I want to see if I can keep my 1 bar (14.5 psi) for a bit longer now that I finally got it.  Thank you! Cheers, Patrick
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:10 pm |
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Ok, I've been trying for more than an hour to make the logger work but I must be doing something wrong.  A8DK100P is my ECU. dschultz wrote: Use this tool to build a basic config: http://www.verticaltier.net/configtool/logger.phpThen tweak it from there I can't find my ECU on that site, when doing a google on it it shows up in the old cache, so it should be there but somehow it isn't.  I then tried to take the logcfg.txt from throttlehappy that I found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7700and followed the steps written. I did get the logcfg.out - looked it through and it seems ok. Plugged the device back in, tried the defroster - nothing. Then I went back to the computer, changed the name of my .out to .txt to see if that was a solution, and guess what. Nothing when I press the defroster.  But I guess that the file is specific to a certain rom? So, I then tried taking my logger.xml from the RomRaider folder, renamned it to logcfd.txt, plugged it in, the lights changed color for a short while and then went back to normal. Took the OP2 out, plugged it back into the computer, but no .out... Right not I am about to go outside again and test if it will start logging with this file on it, did not try yet. If this does not work I am not sure what my next step could be. Anyone care to give a hand?  Cheers, Patrick
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:22 pm |
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Patrick P931 wrote: test if it will start logging with this file on it, did not try yet. Nope, nothing.  Please give a poor chap a hand. 
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:24 pm |
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A rard logcfd.out and the first logcfd.txt that I used to get this logcfd.out. I don't know if it is necessary but just in case I have also added a rard logger.xml. I have read here, on the openecu, googled, but I must be missing something probably fairly straight forward... 
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Patrick P931
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:00 pm |
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dschultz
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Post subject: Re: 2007 EDM FXT 4EAT, stage 1 at the moment? Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:27 pm |
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Don't try and find the CAL ID in the drop list of the site, just type/paste it into the box beside "Get Params".
Here's a config made from that web site. When you use the standalone logger you CAN NOT have anything plugged into the USB port of the OP2 as that disables the logger.
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