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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:25 pm 
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This post is pretty old but I guess my point is relevant.

What about warning on closing the logger without saving the profile? I started messing around with adding the Injector, MAF and Dyno tab settings to the user profile and got this idea. We could put a check box to say "Don't ask me again" so it wouldn't be annoying to people who always want to do the same thing.

Another related idea is to set up some way of making a logger profile the default so I don't have to load it every time. I only have one car, so the parameters are almost always the same on the Dyno tab for example. Clicking through the file menu and browsing for my profile every time I open the logger seems a little unnecessary to me.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who need to load a different profile each time because they tune lots of cars, or they have different sets of features they log on the same car, but it would be nice to have this as an option.

What do you think?


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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:42 pm 
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The logger already remembers the last saved profile and restores it on the next app start. If you change the current profile it does not warn you about that before exit, that might be a useful feature. Also the backup profile is read if the remembered profile is missing. It may be useful to use that as a means to restore the last parameters selected regardless of whether the user saves the changes or not, maybe it already does this, I don't recall.


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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:36 pm 
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dschultz wrote:
The logger already remembers the last saved profile and restores it on the next app start.


Just realized it does this once you plug in the ECU. I've just been looking over the user interface on my desktop, not plugged in anywhere, so I was fooled into thinking this doesn't happen!


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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:46 pm 
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A minor request: Maintain the arrangement of "gauges" on the dashboard view. They are rearranged if I save a profile, then re-open it. Or maybe it's when the I open the profile, they are arranged in the order I originally saved them and it's when I resume from standby they get rearranged. I can't remember. Something triggers them to be re-arranged into alphabetical order, this requires rearranging the columns of logged data when analyzing multiple sessions. Maybe just at least make the logger save the parameters alphabetically.


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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:12 am 
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+1 for all that.

It would be great to have the parameters always be alphabetical in the CSV. I have been logging with RR lately due to the fast polling feature, and I have gotten into the habit of saving and re-opening profiles after I create them. That seems to force alphabetizing, so that I can create a spreadsheet with the first log, and still use it with logs created a day or two later.

Having the dashboard panels remember their locations would be nice too.

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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:16 pm 
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Any input on the MAF tab and graph tab suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:59 am 
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I've been doing a bit more logging lately and have a few suggestions about the MAF & Injector tabs:

Change the color of the "start recording" button to something a little more obvious (red or green if recording data, standard color as is now if not)

Make an export graph data option (eg: right click on graph to dump to a csv file the x,y points).

Make a box zoom in/out... the right click stuff is really annoying.

In the existing zoom controls where do the words "domain" and "range" come from. Why not just say "X axis" and "Y axis" or "Horizontal Axis" and "Vertical Axis" or "Absicca" and "Oridinate"...

Allow filtering on a range of pulse width values before interpolating (injector tab only) like on the maf tab.

Allow filtering based on CL/OL status on both tabs

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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:05 pm 
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I shouldn't be watching the MAF tab while driving (on a closed course) but it's a pain to see the chart. How about making the min/max and zero axis labels larger with more contrast. Also make the axis lines have more contrast.
Also what about a selectable overlay of the current total correction and voltage in the upper right corner.

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 Post subject: Re: GUI overhaul -- what do you want?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:12 am 
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I know this is kinda old, but here I go anyway!

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I also think that the 3d view shouldn't be a series of blocks so to speak, it should be like traditional 3d views found in other tuning applications.

+1 I opened RR at 5am the night before last after a very long day and poked around and this was possibly the weakest point?

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Ok, what about color scaling? Currently the entire table is read and scaling is figured between the highest and lowest values actually found in the table.

I hate this, though I can see why some like it. So it likely needs to stay with either a per table override option or a global preference or both.

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Does it make any more or less sense to skip reading the whole table and scale colors from the highest to lowest possible value?

YES! Absolutely :-) One reason is that when you open, for example, an ignition timing table, at a glance you can see if the whole thing is retarded, advanced, which bits are extreme, or not. When it's auto coloured there is NOTHING that you can tell at a glance except relative shape. Even that is useless, though as the colour range would be the same for the same relative scalings if it were 1 - 1.1 or 1 - 1000. See above re making this globally preferred and per table override-able.

Also, as you stated, you don't have to iterate through the entire table looking at all values to determine the colour scaling on EVERY edit, this way, so there is a huge performance increase, even if it's not noticeable on faster machines doing slower edits.

I have another suggestion that seemed to be lacking, too. Perhaps I'm just not seeing it, though. Or perhaps OEM tune setups don't have much of this. What about groups of single parameters. It would be nice if you didn't get a table view for things that are not a table. If you could have a category type of "single config items" then you could group related settings together and view them more sensibly as a key/value list or similar. If I'm blind, please help :-)

Perhaps some of that is useful!

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