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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:58 pm 
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Try to read what i wrote!

There may be such a map, its probably used in the calculation of indicated torque, but its definately not the map i mentioned earlier as that is ONLY active in idlespeed condition!

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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:25 am 
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Does anyone have list that describe what the different acronyms mean in ms42. I have gathered some kind of list but to add more maps to the xml, I need more complete listing.

Code:
KST = before engine start
KNS = after cold start
ST = engine start
LL = idlespeed
TL = part load
VL = full load
WL = warmup state
KF = angle map?
TAB = value map?
ZW = ignition angle
FAK = multicaptive factor
ADD = additive factor
N = RPM
TI = injection
DIAG = error situation
DISA = DISA
TKW1 = cold engine
TKW2 = warm engine
BEST = optimal
NWSOL = vanos
A = exhaust
E = intake
LMM = maf
-B = basic
KA = with AC
TKW = coolant temp
TAL = intake temp
TOEL = oil temp
TOTZ = delay
VANOS = vanos
SOLL = airflow???
KATV = kat variant
HYS = hysteresis
LAM = closed loop
FETT = rich condition
MAGER = lean condition
NKAT = post cat
MDK = throttle angle


EDIT never mind. Here is one: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwfSP ... WoyU3JRRk0


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:12 pm 
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As always, very nice work everyone.


Has anyone found or found the need for AE/ tip in/ wall wetting type stuff? I have not upgraded injectors yet but I would assume this would be useful.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:33 pm 
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barrymaxx wrote:
wall wetting type stuff

What is it, please clarify.
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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:35 am 
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georg wrote:
barrymaxx wrote:
wall wetting type stuff

What is it, please clarify.
Thanks


It's one way to calculate Acelration enrichment: http://sx.com/doc/ms2extra/MS2-Ext ... l.html#EAE

But I atleast haven't found need to tune AE or decelration maps after changing injectors. Works well without.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:56 pm 
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pazi88 wrote:
georg wrote:
barrymaxx wrote:
wall wetting type stuff

What is it, please clarify.
Thanks

It's one way to calculate Acelration enrichment: http://sx.com/doc/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Tu ... l.html#EAE
But I atleast haven't found need to tune AE or decelration maps after changing injectors. Works well without.


Oh, thanks, but could you renew the link? would like to read into.
Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:49 pm 
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georg wrote:
pazi88 wrote:
It's one way to calculate Acelration enrichment: http://sx.com/doc/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Tu ... l.html#EAE
But I atleast haven't found need to tune AE or decelration maps after changing injectors. Works well without.


Oh, thanks, but could you renew the link? would like to read into.
Thanks!

https://www.diyautotune.com/support/tec ... nrichment/

Think accelerator pump from the carburetor days.

I have found the need to tune it with many standalone setups but I think we will be okay with the MS42/43 as many have tuned larger injectors and have not asked for this table. It is probably multiplicative anyway so it works pretty good if your other fuel tables are scaled nicely.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:37 pm 
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updated original post with most current xml. keep up with the good work. is there anyone attempting turbo on ms42 yet?


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:32 pm 
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hobbit382 wrote:
updated original post with most current xml. keep up with the good work. is there anyone attempting turbo on ms42 yet?


Am i missing it but i cannot find it


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:10 am 
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hobbit382 wrote:
updated original post with most current xml. keep up with the good work. is there anyone attempting turbo on ms42 yet?


Great! There is still some errors in that xml but I will try to hunt those down for the next version.

My friend is building turbo e39 and I will tune it using stock ms42. We will probably use m54b30 MAF because it will go over 1000kg/h. Not having the 2048kg/h MAF mode will be a broblem but I will have to work around it.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:41 pm 
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hobbit382 wrote:
updated original post with most current xml. keep up with the good work. is there anyone attempting turbo on ms42 yet?


I plan on boosting my e39 soon. In the mean time I will work on tuning stock ecu with an upgraded MAF and injectors. Then when boost is ready the tune will come easy.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:19 pm 
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First post so here goes...

I would like to change some basic parameters like lambda configuration and e-thermostat settings.
The car is M52TuB28 swapped e30 with the original ecu + ews running 0110C6 firmware.

With the latest ECU definitions file (0.32) all maps seem to load correctly.
However, when I want to change the E-thermostat settings I notice that the map is much smaller then the map in 0110AD? (like 3 times less columns & rows)
For some reason with the 0110C6 partial loaded the map's name shows "Coolant Temp without A/C (0110CA)"??
Also the DISA map for instance is totally different in 0110C6 and 0110AD.
Is this normal or am I missing something?

I'm a bit lost at this stage because I would really like to flash a partial file to this ECU since I cannot figure out why I'm having issues reading/writing the full flash with either Galletto & JMGarage using the bench setup described on the wiki...

Hopefully someone can help me.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:47 pm 
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The e-thermostat maps are smaller in CA and C6 so those are correct. Bit I'm not yet sure about the DISA maps. I'm currently testing if those work.

Don't know about galetto, but the older garage flasher works for me. Most of the time :D The newer works never. And the chipsters mss5x flash tool works like a treat.


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:26 pm 
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I want to tune for 14psi


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 Post subject: Re: MS42 ECU definitions
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:57 pm 
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Has anyone also had problem, putting the MS42 ECU to Boot mode?
I tried with the JM garage flasher, but it keeps saying Wrong echo byte. Goes to 3% then stops when I click connect.
For boot pin I use Pin 24 on the Flash. I have also tried a pin 104 on the CPU but still no luck.
When also trying to connect with INPA, ECU responds. With MPPS I can also still read the part flash of 32Kb.
I'm doing everything on the "bench" using the 2 wires for 12v supply, one ground, K-line and a needle pin connected to GND and other side to the correct pin on the flash.


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