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 Post subject: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:29 pm 
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So I think I might have scored 2 hp touchpads. If you have been in a hole for the past week, hp abandoned their new webOS tablets and told retailers to drop them to 99$ for the 16 gb and 150 for the 32 gb.

The device runs webOS natively, but I am sure there will be a plethora of ports to this thing, such as ubuntu and android. I will keep you guys posted on getting usb host working and getting romraider logging from the touchpad.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:35 pm 
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Which OS are you going to use? It would be good if you tried Android and got it to work.

I think that the future Android phones will have USB controllers built in so anything you learn here will be helpful for future implementations.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:32 pm 
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Yea my original dream was to get romraider ported to Android, but apparently people are getting many applications to work flawlessly through ubuntu chroot in webOS: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-deve ... chpad.html

Once I get mine, I wills tart experimenting with USB host, and or obd2 to bluetooth. I wouldnt really want to flash with this thing, but itd be cool to use as a car pc that can have wireless digital gauges.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:51 am 
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How would you hook it up to the OBD2 port?

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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:07 am 
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Well if someone writes usb host drivers (which I believe they are in the works), then you can get a regular usb to micro usb adapter from newegg. However, for now I just want to be able to log, which I think I should be able to do with an obdii to bluetooth adapter.

Update: I have romraider working in ubuntu chroot inside webOS. I will be ordering an obdii to bluetooth adapter to tinker with until usb host drivers are written for the touchpad.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:57 am 
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RR Logger will only work with a BlueTooth adapter that DOES NOT use the ELM chip. In other words it would need to be BlueTooth to serial, converted to ISO 14230 physical interface.
I have yet to find one of these devices.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:31 am 
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http://www.elm327-bluetooth.com/compatible-vehicles/

So that wont work?


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:37 am 
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No, that won't work. The ELM system is limited to bare-bones OBD2 stuff like checking for CEL codes. It won't support the SSM protocol, which is needed for data logging.

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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:53 am 
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d0nets wrote:
Well if someone writes usb host drivers (which I believe they are in the works), then you can get a regular usb to micro usb adapter from newegg.


Host USB also requires different hardware than device USB. There is a "USB on the go" standard that can switch modes, but it's not very common. If the TouchPad's USB ports are device-only then bluetooth is your only hope.

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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:09 pm 
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No, that won't work. The ELM system is limited to bare-bones OBD2 stuff like checking for CEL codes. It won't support the SSM protocol, which is needed for data logging.


Is this a romraider limitation or an all together subaru limitation? I have seen a few people using those adapters with an android app called Torque.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:10 pm 
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NSFW wrote:
d0nets wrote:
Well if someone writes usb host drivers (which I believe they are in the works), then you can get a regular usb to micro usb adapter from newegg.


Host USB also requires different hardware than device USB. There is a "USB on the go" standard that can switch modes, but it's not very common. If the TouchPad's USB ports are device-only then bluetooth is your only hope.



I am pretty sure I read that the hardware is confirmed to be able to do USB host and that someone is working on drivers.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:11 pm 
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Romraider is running in ubuntu chroot. However, I added the ecu defs and tried opening a rom and it didnt go so well. It takes about 5-10 minutes to open the rom for some reason, and when it finally finishes opening it, I do not see any tables. Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:35 pm 
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So apparently not only does the hardware support usb host, but it works out of the box in webos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV0ElV0- ... r_embedded

Does logging require any type of power? Because that is the only limitation with usb host, you have to provide external power.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:21 pm 
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d0nets wrote:
NSFW wrote:
No, that won't work. The ELM system is limited to bare-bones OBD2 stuff like checking for CEL codes. It won't support the SSM protocol, which is needed for data logging.


Is this a romraider limitation or an all together subaru limitation? I have seen a few people using those adapters with an android app called Torque.

You can call it a RR limitation as RR was written to utilize the SSM protocol, not ODB.


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 Post subject: Re: HP Touchpad + Romraider Adventure
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:24 pm 
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d0nets wrote:
Romraider is running in ubuntu chroot. However, I added the ecu defs and tried opening a rom and it didnt go so well. It takes about 5-10 minutes to open the rom for some reason, and when it finally finishes opening it, I do not see any tables. Any ideas?

I suspect this may be due to Java. I see similar problems with OpenJDK on Linux. Can you get the Java version being used?
The length of time may be due to memory allotted to Java or maybe non-optimized version of Java. I see a similarly long time when opening a ROM on my phone.


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